Islamica Community

A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

You aren't logged in. Sign in below or register today!
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 04:32 PM
Rambo's Avatar
Rambo
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Rating: 8 Votes / 2.50 Average
Posts: 1,205
Rambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond reputeRambo has a reputation beyond repute
Default A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

By DONNA ABU-NASR – 1 hour ago
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — It's probably as revolutionary and groundbreaking as Mozart gets these days. A German-based quartet staged Saudi Arabia's first-ever performance of European classical music in a public venue before a mixed gender audience.
The concert, held at a government-run cultural center, broke many taboos in a country where public music is banned and the sexes are segregated even in lines at fast food outlets.
The Friday night performance could be yet another indication that this strict Muslim kingdom is looking to open up to the rest of the world.
A few weeks ago, King Abdullah made an unprecedented call for interfaith dialogue with Christians and Jews — the first such proposal from a nation that forbids non-Muslim religious services and symbols.
"The concert is a sign that things are changing rapidly here," said German Ambassador Juergen Krieghoff, whose embassy sponsored the concert as part of the first-ever German Cultural Weeks in Saudi Arabia.
"Evidently the government has decided that a minimum of openness in our new world economy and in our information-based world is necessary for us and also for good understanding among cultures," he added.
Public concerts are practically unheard of in the kingdom. Foreign embassies and consulates regularly bring musical groups, but they perform on embassy grounds or in expatriates' residential compounds, and the shows are not open to the public.
In the past couple of months, however, there has been a quiet, yet marked increase in cultural activities in Saudi Arabia. Lectures and a couple of segregated folk music performances were held on the sidelines of Riyadh's book fair. And Jiddah's annual Economic Forum opened with a surprise this February — a performance of Arab and Western music.
"For half an hour, we did not quite know whether we had stumbled into an unknown Jiddah nightclub or whether it was some amazing mistake that would suddenly stop," wrote Michel Cousins in the English-language daily Arab News, describing the 30-minute show.
Friday's concert of works by works by Mozart, Brahms and Paul Juon was the first classical performance held in public in Saudi Arabia, said German press attache Georg Klussmann. It was advertised on the embassy's Web site with free tickets that could be downloaded and printed.
The excitement in the 500-seat hall was palpable as the largely expatriate audience walked in.
"We have not done a concert like this before," German diplomat Tobias Krause told the audience at the start of performance by the Artis Piano Quartet. Those gathered applauded enthusiastically after each piece and were treated to an encore.
Sebastian Bischoff, the German cultural attache, said the mission had received permission for the event from the Ministry of Information and Culture, which runs the King Fahd Cultural Center where the concert took place.
Japanese pianist Hiroko Atsumi, the quartet's only woman, said there was some debate before the concert about whether she should perform in an abaya, the enveloping black cloak all women must wear in public. She ended up settling on a long green top and black trousers.
Among the first to arrive was Faiza al-Khayyal, a retired Saudi educator, with her 15-year-old daughter.
"I came here for her sake. She loves classical music," said al-Khayyal. "There are cultural activities at embassies, but we don't get invited to them."
Al-Khayyal said she had inquired about seating arrangements and was told the audience would be mixed.
Did she mind bringing her daughter to a mixed gathering?
"It's OK with me," she said, and then added with a smile: "I'm with her."
Faleh al-Ajami, a university Arabic language professor, brought his wife and two sons to the concert — a rare opportunity for the whole family to do something fun together.
"It's a good step to introduce Saudis to classical music," al-Ajami, 50, said during the intermission.
"I was amazed at the sounds coming from the musical instruments," said his son Ziad al-Ajami, 11, a fan of hard rock. "I've never been to a live concert before."
For the expatriates, the evening was an opportunity to have a normal evening out in Riyadh, a city with no movie theaters and where women are not allowed in outdoor cafes.
One foreign couple held hands, while another husband put his arm around his wife's shoulders — rare public displays of affection in the kingdom. The mutuwwa, the dreaded religious police tasked with enforcing public morality, were nowhere to be seen for a change.
"I'm glad for an opportunity like this," said Mary Ann Jumawan, a 40-year-old administrator at the South Korean Embassy. "It's the first time in nine years here as a married couple that my husband and I go to a location like this."
But not everyone was impressed.
Abdullah al-Sabhan, his brother and three friends received invitations from a German business associate, but after half an hour, they snuck out.
"I'm bored," said al-Sabhan, 26, an engineer who prefers Egyptian pop music and had never heard of Mozart. "Let me leave before the second piece begins."
His brother, Saud, dismissed the notion that gatherings involving men and women together might one day become the norm.
"Saudi society wouldn't accept it. And girls aren't used to such mixed gatherings," he said, adding that if he had a sister, she certainly would not have been allowed to attend

The Associated Press: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 05:02 PM
slime's Avatar
slime
Super Moderator Offline
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Rating: 1 Votes / 5.00 Average
Posts: 9,398
slime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond reputeslime has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

is this the first time they're having a public concert too?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 05:27 PM
AmroodWaala's Avatar
AmroodWaala
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Rating: 3 Votes / 5.00 Average
Posts: 1,181
AmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambo View Post


"I'm bored," said al-Sabhan, 26, an engineer who prefers Egyptian pop music and had never heard of Mozart. "Let me leave before the second piece begins."


Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2008, 05:38 PM
sally's Avatar
sally
The Non-Emo Moderator Offline
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Rating: 7 Votes / 3.86 Average
Posts: 21,126
sally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond reputesally has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to sally Send a message via MSN to sally
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

HI, i hate cats. ive hated cats for years. i love to kill all felines or restrict their basic rights. but not necessarily in that order. kittens can be okay though. but i think it's time to change things...the world needs to know we can be different too. the first step in this journey would be to give the public the impression that we dont hate cats that much. and how do we do this? the most obvious solution is to demonstrate how we have now developed some semblence of tolerance to bug spray!
__________________
*half marathon* ~ November 15th, 2008
a l w a y s one foot o n the gr o un d
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 12:30 AM
Fortune's Avatar
Fortune
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: May 2006
Rating: Not Rated
Posts: 907
Fortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Fortune
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

They should have tried Chopin instead.
__________________
ಠ_ಠ
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 12:35 AM
iceonfire's Avatar
iceonfire
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Rating: 5 Votes / 4.20 Average
Posts: 171
iceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

like why is this such a big deal u know what i mean i jus think it soceitys way of putting people down and all that **** u know wat i mean cause i don't =] seriously ima just typing so like watever bye yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
__________________
When life gives you lemons, make orange juice and leave the world wondering how the heck you did it
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 12:39 AM
Fortune's Avatar
Fortune
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: May 2006
Rating: Not Rated
Posts: 907
Fortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Fortune
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

Quote:
Originally Posted by iceonfire View Post
like why is this such a big deal u know what i mean i jus think it soceitys way of putting people down and all that **** u know wat i mean cause i don't =] seriously ima just typing so like watever bye yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Someone has been hitting the bottle.
__________________
ಠ_ಠ
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 12:40 AM
iceonfire's Avatar
iceonfire
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Rating: 5 Votes / 4.20 Average
Posts: 171
iceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

wat i do on my own time is none of ur damn bussines lol
__________________
When life gives you lemons, make orange juice and leave the world wondering how the heck you did it
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 12:45 AM
iceonfire's Avatar
iceonfire
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Rating: 5 Votes / 4.20 Average
Posts: 171
iceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond reputeiceonfire has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

alright ima hit the hay
__________________
When life gives you lemons, make orange juice and leave the world wondering how the heck you did it
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 12:46 AM
Fortune's Avatar
Fortune
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: May 2006
Rating: Not Rated
Posts: 907
Fortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond reputeFortune has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Fortune
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

In This Thread: An AIM conversation between Ice and I
__________________
ಠ_ಠ
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2008, 02:42 AM
Haramoobobi's Avatar
Haramoobobi
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Rating: 3 Votes / 3.67 Average
Posts: 1,167
Haramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond reputeHaramoobobi has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Haramoobobi Send a message via MSN to Haramoobobi
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

umm? Riyadh is pretty strict city... I am mildly surprised.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2008, 11:57 PM
AmroodWaala's Avatar
AmroodWaala
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Rating: 3 Votes / 5.00 Average
Posts: 1,181
AmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond reputeAmroodWaala has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fortune View Post
Someone has been hitting the bottle.


,,,,
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2008, 04:52 AM
Pushpa's Avatar
Pushpa
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: May 2003
Rating: 1 Votes / 5.00 Average
Posts: 2,023
Pushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond reputePushpa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

About bloody time.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 05-07-2008, 06:58 AM
roberto's Avatar
roberto
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Rating: 12 Votes / 1.33 Average
Posts: 2,091
roberto roberto roberto roberto roberto roberto roberto roberto roberto roberto roberto
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pushpa View Post
About bloody time.

WOMAN KNOW YOUR PLACE! .Well if you were a Christian

When is this Satan-inspired evil going to end. Not content with unleashing, with diabolical cunning, such God destroying ideas as Evolution, Atheism and Heliocentricity, he seeks to further pervert the world by supporting that ultimate blasphamy the "Woman's Liberation Movement".

Woman, Know Your Place
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-07-2008, 09:30 PM
Skinwalker's Avatar
Skinwalker
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Rating: 8 Votes / 4.50 Average
Posts: 759
Skinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond reputeSkinwalker has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

Perhaps they should have started with a ballet instead. That way they could have had the beautiful music combined with beautiful dancing. Something to look at perhaps. An orchestra on its own can sometimes be a bit of a bore.

__________________


"Remember: If the Creator put it there, it is in the right place. The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears."



International Fund for Horses
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Saudis to retrain 40,000 clerics zzze News & Media 15 03-21-2008 08:49 PM
Saudis open hotel for women only Haramoobobi News & Media 13 03-21-2008 05:22 PM