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Old 04-29-2008, 11:27 AM
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Well, at least they are attacking EVERYONES religion. They don't want to be seen as biased or anything.

BTW, this isn't exactly a new. The Dutch are being apologetic on this one, they could have said much worse. To an anti-religious man, a man without an terrestrial father being the founder of a Religious movement opens up all kinds of horrible accusations. No, I'm not promoting anything, I'm just saying that I really don't expect much better of these people.
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I don't honestly see a problem with it...
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Well, at least they are attacking EVERYONES religion.
they're not attacking religion, if they were attacking religion that would be fine

but they're attacking prophets and beloved revered figures
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they're not attacking religion, if they were attacking religion that would be fine

but they're attacking prophets and beloved revered figures
Did I say I was okay with it? No. I don't see a difference between attacking the revered Prophet/Founder/Leader of the religion, and the religion itself.
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Did I say I was okay with it? No. I don't see a difference between attacking the revered Prophet/Founder/Leader of the religion, and the religion itself.
There's a difference between criticizing a religion on the field of ideas & attacking/slandering a revered figure with baseless conjecture.
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Robocop was awesome. Total Recall is one of my top 5. The rest of his movies are garbage.
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they're not attacking religion, if they were attacking religion that would be fine

but they're attacking prophets and beloved revered figures
All I caught from the article was that he was saying that Jesus may have been the product of a rape. For all I know, or anyone knows... he may have been. That hypothesis in and of itself isn't offensive. Yeh, there's a good chance he's just trying to rock some boats (again in which case I couldn't care less). But then again he may be drawing from credible lines of evidence.
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All I caught from the article was that he was saying that Jesus may have been the product of a rape. For all I know, or anyone knows... he may have been. That hypothesis in and of itself isn't offensive. Yeh, there's a good chance he's just trying to rock some boats (again in which case I couldn't care less). But then again he may be drawing from credible lines of evidence.
You never cease to amaze me dude.

That kind of "hypothesis" [that Prophet Jesus may have been a product of rape] is offensive to Muslims and Christians on two counts:

a) Everyone knows Jesus' conception was immaculate.
b) That the Virgin Mary was one of the most, if not the most chaste woman, to have ever lived.

All these years you've spent around Muslims and Christians didn't clue you into that? Or were you just playing dumb again?
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You never cease to amaze me dude.

That kind of "hypothesis" [that Prophet Jesus may have been a product of rape] is offensive to Muslims and Christians on two counts:

a) Everyone knows Jesus' conception was immaculate.
b) That the Virgin Mary was one of the most, if not the most chaste woman, to have ever lived.

All these years you've spent around Muslims and Christians didn't clue you into that? Or were you just playing dumb again?
i have to interject here. i'm not supporting or rejecting any idea posed by anyone here, but i can't help but make the observation that rape does not make someone less chaste.
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all i have to say is what the hell is wrong with these lunatic dutch? They seem to the biggest producers of garbage and lies lately. May Allah's wrath be upon people who slander and defame his prophets, ameen.
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You never cease to amaze me dude.

That kind of "hypothesis" [that Prophet Jesus may have been a product of rape] is offensive to Muslims and Christians on two counts:

a) Everyone knows Jesus' conception was immaculate.
b) That the Virgin Mary was one of the most, if not the most chaste woman, to have ever lived.

All these years you've spent around Muslims and Christians didn't clue you into that? Or were you just playing dumb again?
are you trying to say he had an immaculate conception? because the phrase "immaculate conception" refers to the sinless state of Mary at birth. "virgin birth" refers to Jesus' "fatherless" birth. Nothing personal, I just hate it when people dont get stuff straight...i guess it comes with being a religious studies major
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