[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

Not sure wtf you're talking about. I didn't disagree with Hanbali at any point during my post. The part you bolded only affirms what Hanbali is saying.

I am not sure why this is so difficult to understand. Hanbali said that wearing a hijab somehow makes the woman a better person/'muslim and women should wear it even if they dont believe in it, I said that is ridiculous as the headscarf has nothing to do with being a good person, that only a persons beliefs and actions make them a hypocrite. Then you said it is a fallacy to assume someone is a hypocrite because of the fact that they are a hoe yet wear the headscarf, which was my point from the beginning!

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

An idea is logically fallacious when its premises violate rules of logic. Like considering a 'ho' who is a hijabi to necessarily be a hypocrite.

Or saying that wearing a headscarf even when they dont believe in it somehow makes them a better person.

[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

I am not sure why this is so difficult to understand. Hanbali said that wearing a hijab somehow makes the woman a better person/'muslim and women should wear it even if they dont believe in it,

Nonsense. I never said any of this. You have reading problems.

I merely said that a woman who wears tight clothes and a hijab should not take off her hijab. If she did that, then it would be two sins, instead of one.

I never said that all hijabis are better than all non-hijabis.

I said that is ridiculous as the headscarf has nothing to do with being a good person, that only a persons beliefs and actions make them a hypocrite. Then you said it is a fallacy to assume someone is a hypocrite because of the fact that they are a hoe yet wear the headscarf, which was my point from the beginning!

Do you even know what the meaning of the word "fallacy" is?

Let me clear this thread up for you, since you are a dumbo.

Sister Displaced said that a girl who wears tight clothes and a hijab is a hypocrite, so it would be better her to take off the hijab and not be a hypocrite.

I said that just because she wears tight clothes does not make her a hypocrite, nor should she take off the hijab.

Six Pak AGREED with me and said that it was INCORRECT for Sister Displaced to claim that it's being a hypocrite to wear hijab and tight clothes. Rather, it would be hypocrisy if the girl didn't wear hijab and then advised people to wear it, or if she wore tight clothes and advised people to wear loose clothes.

How this agrees with what you said, we are all at a loss in understanding that.

Or saying that wearing a headscarf even when they dont believe in it somehow makes them a better person.

When did I say anything about wearing a headscarf without even believing in it? I never said any such thing, so you are either a liar or dumb. I think it is dumb.

[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

Nonsense. I never said any of this. You have reading problems.
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Refer to your quote at the end of this post.

Originally Posted by Hanbali

I merely said that a woman who wears tight clothes and a hijab should not take off her hijab. If she did that, then it would be two sins, instead of one.
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AND I SAID THAT IS A FALLACY YOU IDIOT!!!! WEARING A PIECE OF FABRIC ON YOUR HEAD DOES NOT DICTATE HYPOCRISY!!!!

Originally Posted by Hanbali

I never said that all hijabis are better than all non-hijabis.
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Originally Posted by Hanbali

." I think they should be advised and cautioned.Remember: a hoey hijabi is better than a hoey non-hijabi. Something is better than nothing.
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Originally Posted by Hanbali

Do you even know what the meaning of the word "fallacy" is?
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A fallacy is a component of an argument which, being demonstrably flawed in its logic or form, renders the argument invalid in whole.

Originally Posted by Hanbali

Let me clear this thread up for you, since you are a dumbo.

Sister Displaced said that a girl who wears tight clothes and a hijab is a hypocrite, so it would be better her to take off the hijab and not be a hypocrite.

I said that just because she wears tight clothes does not make her a hypocrite, nor should she take off the hijab.

Six Pak AGREED with me and said that it was INCORRECT for Sister Displaced to claim that it's being a hypocrite to wear hijab and tight clothes. Rather, it would be hypocrisy if the girl didn't wear hijab and then advised people to wear it, or if she wore tight clothes and advised people to wear loose clothes.
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When sixpak agreed with you that it is a fallacy to think that its hypocritical for a hijabi to wear tight clothes, he validated my claim that it is a fallacy to assume that its better for someone to wear the scarf when they are obviously not following the religion, and that wearing the scarf even when they dont believe, as you advocated, is STUPID.

Originally Posted by Hanbali

How this agrees with what you said, we are all at a loss in understanding that.
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Its is always difficult to convince a flat earther that the world is round

Originally Posted by Hanbali

When did I say anything about wearing a headscarf without even believing in it? I never said any such thing, so you are either a liar or dumb. I think it is dumb.

Originally Posted by Hanbali

." I think they should be advised and cautioned. Remember: a hoey hijabi is better than a hoey non-hijabi. Something is better than nothing.
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[Hanbali]

Trent, stop twisting my words and rewording them so I say something other than what I did. It's annoying.

You said:

WEARING A PIECE OF FABRIC ON YOUR HEAD DOES NOT DICTATE HYPOCRISY!!!!

Did I say differently?

Then you quoted me here:

Originally Posted by Hanbali

I never said that all hijabis are better than all non-hijabis.

And here:

I think they should be advised and cautioned.Remember: a hoey hijabi is better than a hoey non-hijabi. Something is better than nothing.

Do you see how these two statements do not contradict each other?

A Hayaful hijabi is superior to an equally Hayaful non-hijabi.
A hoey hijabi is inferior to a hayaful non-hijabi.
A hoey hijabi is superior to an equally hoey non-hijabi.

That is my position.

When sixpak agreed with you that it is a fallacy to think that its hypocritical for a hijabi to wear tight clothes, he validated my claim that it is a fallacy to assume that its better for someone to wear the scarf when they are obviously not following the religion, and that wearing the scarf even when they dont believe, as you advocated, is STUPID.

Six Pak never said any such thing. He already posted telling you that he never once disagreed with me. It is up to you to continue defending your third grave reading comprehension.

[Khairan]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

Can you follow that nitwit? If sixpak agreed with you then HE didnt understand your posts or his own.

Salaams:

Just to be clear --

Hanbali: It is better to be a sinful person who observes some religious things than to be a sinful person who does not make any religious observance. Something is better than nothing. [crux of post]

You: Being sinful and observing religious practices have nothing to do with one another. [This is true, as people who are religious are not precluded from doing wrong things. However, it has nothing to do with what Hanbali -- who believes that one's sins should not prevent one from seeking to do good whenever one is able -- was saying.]

SixPak: It is a logical fallacy to suggest that someone who commits sins and also observes religion is a hypocrite. [Also true, and directed to Hanbali's point sins are not a logical reason to abandon all religious observance.]