[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by displaced

@ fulan.

I love when "religious" people throw random arabic words into their conversations...as though that makes it more meaningful.

mutawattir.

mujtahid mutlaq.

ethnocentric.

eurocentric.

religio-political.

historicity.

guess who says these words?

[displaced]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

mutawattir.

mujtahid mutlaq.

ethnocentric.

eurocentric.

religio-political.

historicity.

guess who says these words?

do you want a cookie for knowing words with more than 5 letters?

there are certain words (mainly from the quran) that speak for themselves..they don't translate well. however, the random sprinkling of arabic just makes you look silly.

[Nabisco007]

I like the regular style of pinning the hijab

[AmroodWaala]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

In my humble opinion, dear brother, we should not say to these hijabis "you might as well take your hijab off." I think they should be advised and cautioned. Remember: a hoey hijabi is better than a hoey non-hijabi. Something is better than nothing.

As for the woman in the article, she is obviously not one of those hoey girls who wears tight clothes.
May Allah [swt] reward her for her sincere intention. All actions are judged by intention.

let's not use derogatory language, "surely He is the best Knower and Judge of all things".

[AmroodWaala]

Originally Posted by Spice

And I dislike your use of the derogatory H term. Try to refrain from using it where Muslim women are concerned, theyre your sisters in deen.

why only Muslim women?

[shadha]

Ugly but I have seen far worse.


shadha-

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

mutawattir.

mujtahid mutlaq.

ethnocentric.

eurocentric.

religio-political.

historicity.

guess who says these words?

you forgot 'deontological' and 'adduce'

as for being a ho and a hijabi making one a hypocrite, that's a pretty common logical fallacy

hypocrisy would be if she condemned others for not wearing hijab while not wearing hijab herself, or if she condemned other hijabis for being hojabis while being a hojabi herself, and so on

people are only human & everyone has their flaws, but you do what you can. hijab is not only for sinless super-human females. hanbali's point is valid, and saying "LOL you used an Arabic word" or "LOL you heard that at juma" doesn't really refute the validity of it

[Haramoobobi]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

Dear sister, this logic would have disastrous consequences and lead people to think something like this:

Fulan prays five times a day but also commits fornication. This, according to you, would be hypocrisy. And therefore Fulan thinks to himself "Hey it would be better if I stop praying five times since it's even worse to be a hypocrite."

And so Fulan goes from committing one sin, to committing two sins.

Gotta agree on Jaysh on this, better you try and fail at some things, then to be too arrogant and thus totally damned because you ended up not trying at all.

Anyways, don't down it!!!! I NEED MY HOPE

Originally Posted by AmroodWaala

why only Muslim women?

rep. that was totally halal mashAllah

[YOUSUFofSD]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

Dear sister, this logic would have disastrous consequences and lead people to think something like this:

Fulan prays five times a day but also commits fornication. This, according to you, would be hypocrisy. And therefore Fulan thinks to himself "Hey it would be better if I stop praying five times since it's even worse to be a hypocrite."

And so Fulan goes from committing one sin, to committing two sins.

Agreed .

[AmroodWaala]

Originally Posted by displaced

I don't agree with you. it's better to not be a hypocrite than to be a hypocrite.

Islam is not linear... you don't have to do X and Y to do Z. A person working in a bar may come home and pray. Is he a hypocrite? perhaps, one can debate about it. But we don't know the situation fully well to judge the person. At the same time, to accuse him of hypocrisy is to discourage him from something positive in his life. If he doesn't pray, he has to answer that on Judgment Day. If he does, he may be questioned for hypocrisy. People are judged by their individual deeds within the context.

Distancing yourself from God because one fears being labeled a "hypocrite" isn't the best strategy. While doing good/obligatory deeds, the person may feel guilty for the wrong things and turn around.... beside all deeds count

[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

as for being a ho and a hijabi making one a hypocrite, that's a pretty common logical fallacy

My point exactly.

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

hypocrisy would be if she condemned others for not wearing hijab while not wearing hijab herself, or if she condemned other hijabis for being hojabis while being a hojabi herself, and so on

EXACTLY!!!!

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

. hanbali's point is valid,

How so? You just said it was a common fallacy. How is it valid?

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

and saying "LOL you used an Arabic word" or "LOL you heard that at juma" doesn't really refute the validity of it

He has no opinion on the matter other than what he heard from his local mullah, as evidenced by his use of a fallacy as an "explanation." He has no point.

[displaced]

if a girl wears hijab but sluts around, she's a hypocrite to me *shrugs* I don't think the fact that she's wearing hijab makes her better by default than a non-hijabi. as least the non-hijabi is not falsely advertising.

hijab is more than a piece of fabric on your head, it's more than just physical modesty. because when all is said and done, physical modesty means jack if you have no spiritual modesty.

[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

How so? You just said it was a common fallacy. How is it valid?

ahahaahahaha

You have the reading comprehension skills of a five year old.

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by AmroodWaala

why only Muslim women?

Because kaffir girls don't mind it

[Haramoobobi]

Originally Posted by displaced

if a girl wears hijab but sluts around, she's a hypocrite to me *shrugs* I don't think the fact that she's wearing hijab makes her better by default than a non-hijabi. as least the non-hijabi is not falsely advertising.

hijab is more than a piece of fabric on your head, it's more than just physical modesty. because when all is said and done, physical modesty means jack if you have no spiritual modesty.

Who are you to judge?? Like really... the most obtuse and injudicious comment ever.

Originally Posted by Aryan_

Because kaffir girls don't mind it

If by kaffir you mean like atheists--they can be moral people too. And sometimes even more moral then the people who follow teachings blindly.

Anyways we weren't talking about "kaffir women" only--it was extending to all non-Muslim women too.



don't insult humanities womenfolk, some of you have been watching too much TV. I suggest some of you take the time go to a non-Muslim service so you can see how much, indeed, we are alike. It's quite shocking.

The world is need of more piety and less self righteousness...[whether religious or otherwise]