[Jack_Sparrow]

A new low. Am I the only one that sees our extremist "sunni" groups as a major major problem in our communities? This is amazing. I used to sometimes go to the processions with some shia friends, and drank from the sabeels in Karachi. How is killing shias on their processions do anything. I encourage you all to be aware of these events, as they seemed to be happening to our shia friends all over Pakistan.

Pakistani police say avert bomb, cyanide disaster

KARACHI, Jan 19 (Reuters) - Pakistani police said on Saturday they had averted a disaster with the arrest of five militants planning to attack Shi'ite Muslim processions with cyanide and suicide bombs.
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"They planned to carry out suicide and grenade attacks on processions,"
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Police seized 6 kg (13.2 lb) of explosives for use in suicide jackets, 2 kg (4.4 lb) ball bearings, one kg (2.2 lb) of nails, detonators, three hand grenades and two pistols.
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Police also seized 500 grams (17 oz) of cyanide that Farooqi said was going to be used to poison drinks handed out to people taking part in the Shi'ite processions.

- as a side note, people who bust out with the apologetic generic syliloquy of "may allah guide them on the right path" are providing a slap on the wrist and in turn a cheer for these terrorists, by simply being apathetic to the hardship of the victims.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

what do you expect out of wahabi fanatics. what do you mean about 'our sunni', to these people anyone who isnt a wahabi is not a sunni, let alone a Muslim. in Egypt, a Sunni majority country. there a mosque in cairo where sunni's and shia's pray together in the same mosque. so dont say that these are 'our' extremists, because they are not, they are wahabis and nothing more.

[Jack_Sparrow]

Surely, these look like true believers. Tsk Tsk


the suspects with manhoos faces

[annie_359]

Originally Posted by Jack_Sparrow

the suspects with manhoos faces

What does manhoos mean?

Annie

[MossadConspiracy]

it is not a new low, the terrorists in Iraq used chlorine gas bombs to kill hundreds of shias in several bombings last year

[GOTFIVEONIT]

i knew a shia bohra (who has since died) in india who was expelled from his jamaat khana - because of his refusal to wear a beard!. even he wouldnt wish this on them, if he were still alive. he would make fun of them at the most, and would pray at a sunni mosque after his expulsion.

[ChotooMotoo]

this isn't even about wahabi's. I've known plenty of saudi wahabi's and while they don't particularly care for shias, they don't preach against them in their khutbas, they don't advocate their destruction or any of those things. That kind of intolorence against shias, or any other "deviant" group is something that seems to be unique to South Asia, and Iraq. Even in Iraq it's a pretty new things. Sadam gassed the Shias because they tried to rise against him, not because he cared about shia-sunni rivalry. Many people have commented that the shia-sunni thing in Iraq has more to do with tribalism than it does with shia-sunni rivalry.

My old Mosque was run by Saudi's. They gave the khutbah almost every week. The one non-Saudi person to give khutbas was a guy from Bengladesh. When he gave khutbas, he frequently talked about how evil Shias were, how evil Ahmadi's were, how deviant suffism is. We had a couple of shias attend that mosque, and everyone was fine with it, except that guy from Bengladesh. WHen he started giving those khutbas, all our shias left (except one, but he is a really outstanding dude.) In fact, in all my conversations with Saudi's the ONLY thing they ever said about Shias was that "they do some wrong things, be careful of them." Then go sit with the Pakistani students, who smoke, drink, have sex with western girls, and what do they talk about when they sit around with eachother? They talk about how evil Shias are, and how Ahmadi's are evil and don't deserve a place in Pakistan. What the hell? When they used to come to my house and do that, my husband told them to stop talking like that.

I don't know why Desi people are so intolorent, but sometimes it seems that they feel they can make up for all the haram things they do by bashing other "deviant" groups. I have no idea where that mentality comes from, but it really makes me mad. Especially when these same Desi kids have no problems marrying a Shia American girl or a Bahai American girl. It's totally intolorence and hypocracy. When people are that intolorent of eachother, how can you expect to have any kind of society that has any peace?

[Jack_Sparrow]

Your observations are spot on, but consider the larger diaphram here. Pakistan is one of the only few sunni countries where shias are allowed to pray to allah they way they want, and openly. But its also a country that indirectly, through Saudi money, misled our young men and still is. So hence the friction.

That isn't the case anywhere in the gulf countries (and consequently southern provinces of Saudi where all the labor class that runs the oil fields is shia) for example, where the shia population outnumbers the ruling Ahl Sunnah monarchies and who strictly regulate processions and even building of shia mosques.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

Sadam gassed the Shias because they tried to rise against him, not because he cared about shia-sunni rivalry. Many people have commented that the shia-sunni thing in Iraq has more to do with tribalism than it does with shia-sunni rivalry.

Actually he gassed Sunnis (Kurdish ones). The Shia tried to rise against him because he'd maintained with force their social immobility that had been in place since the Ottoman times, and they thought their chance had come in '91.

[Macaca]

Originally Posted by Jack_Sparrow

A new low. Am I the only one that sees our extremist "sunni" groups as a major major problem in our communities? This is amazing. I used to sometimes go to the processions with some shia friends, and drank from the sabeels in Karachi. How is killing shias on their processions do anything. I encourage you all to be aware of these events, as they seemed to be happening to our shia friends all over Pakistan.



- as a side note, people who bust out with the apologetic generic syliloquy of "may allah guide them on the right path" are providing a slap on the wrist and in turn a cheer for these terrorists, by simply being apathetic to the hardship of the victims.

Why don't you get out of your bubble and see violence is going both-ways?
How about shias setting sunnis on fire? You think that's any less violent?
Btw, some of these people who are killing shias are also the same who would kill sunnis at the drop of the hat if they knew some sunnis thought tawassul is permissible,etc.
They're very extreme, but even among wahabi people they are a minority.

[Jack_Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Macaca

Why don't you get out of your bubble and see violence is going both-ways?
How about shias setting sunnis on fire? You think that's any less violent?
Btw, some of these people who are killing shias are also the same who would kill sunnis at the drop of the hat if they knew some sunnis thought tawassul is permissible,etc.
They're very extreme, but even among wahabi people they are a minority.

Shias in pakistan are setting sunnis on fire in muharram? Any proof? I haven't heard of that bro. And I agree with the later part of your message, but lets face it. They fall under our community and usually hide in the noble Ahl Sunnah ranks. What are we doing to quell the situation is really the question.

[Macaca]

Originally Posted by Jack_Sparrow

Shias in pakistan are setting sunnis on fire in muharram? Any proof? I haven't heard of that bro. And I agree with the later part of your message, but lets face it. They fall under our community and usually hide in the noble Ahl Sunnah ranks. What are we doing to quell the situation is really the question.

Iraq,Iraq, not Pakistan.

[rahat]

Originally Posted by Macaca

Iraq,Iraq, not Pakistan.

I believe he still asked for Daleel.

[Rida]

Shias burn 6 Sunnis alive, police say

[Jack_Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Macaca

Iraq,Iraq, not Pakistan.

This thread is about extremist terrorists trying to kill our shia friends with cyanide in their processions, in Pakistan. I do not know where you make the connection.