[DeenDude]

Originally Posted by revivalist786

this sentiment of not wanting america on muslim soil is shared by majority if not all muslims..

Then how about all muslims get off american/western soil? forget the mosques in the west. WE get our muslim soil, but to be fair, you and every muslim in the western hemisphere, europe, and australia have to get out and stop living on theirs.

Would you support that even tho many muslims have a profound love for america and moved here of their own free will? the west isn't forcing it's muslims to stay (in fact, quite a few would be happy to see us go, even if we were native to the land as much as they were).

Muslims can leave america anytime. nobody would hold them back. but in order to be consistent, muslims would have to get out one way or another if you want the west off muslim soil in your delusion that the world can be split into "muslim" and non-muslim so easily.

[m_ali_qazi]

Originally Posted by DeenDude

Then how about all muslims get off american/western soil?

we're not invaders here

we dont harm their people and we obey their laws

[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by DeenDude

Then how about all muslims get off american/western soil? forget the mosques in the west. WE get our muslim soil, but to be fair, you and every muslim in the western hemisphere, europe, and australia have to get out and stop living on theirs.

Would you support that even tho many muslims have a profound love for america and moved here of their own free will? the west isn't forcing it's muslims to stay (in fact, quite a few would be happy to see us go, even if we were native to the land as much as they were).

Muslims can leave america anytime. nobody would hold them back. but in order to be consistent, muslims would have to get out one way or another if you want the west off muslim soil in your delusion that the world can be split into "muslim" and non-muslim so easily.

WE are here on their soil with THEIR invitation. My dad was RECRUITED by their top universities. WE came with proper VISAs.

THEY came with GUNS. THEY INVADED our lands.

If a Muslim country grants a visa (i.e. protection) to a non-Muslim, then the Prophet [s] has warned that he himself will be the enemy of the one who harms even one hair on that non-Muslim.

Meanwhile, if they invade our lands, then Muslims are to fight the invaders to death.

If you can't see the difference between coming to a country as a visitor, and coming as an invader with an army, then you need to check yo self before you wreck yo self.

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by DeenDude

Then how about all muslims get off american/western soil? forget the mosques in the west. WE get our muslim soil, but to be fair, you and every muslim in the western hemisphere, europe, and australia have to get out and stop living on theirs.

Would you support that even tho many muslims have a profound love for america and moved here of their own free will? the west isn't forcing it's muslims to stay (in fact, quite a few would be happy to see us go, even if we were native to the land as much as they were).

Muslims can leave america anytime. nobody would hold them back. but in order to be consistent, muslims would have to get out one way or another if you want the west off muslim soil in your delusion that the world can be split into "muslim" and non-muslim so easily.

With respect, that is the stupidest argument I have ever heard, and you are an idiot.

Are we here in the West, holding guns over their children, raping their women, enslaving their men, and stealing their natural resources? Because I can tell you are a moron, I will give you the answer. It is "no".

Are Western soldiers in Muslim countries doing the above? The answer, for idiots, is "yes".

Westerners are welcome in Muslim countries, as workers, as travellers, as citizens who wish to abide by the law, and contribute to society, just as Muslims are welcome in the West to do the same.

[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

With respect, that is the stupidest argument I have ever heard, and you are an idiot.

Hahahahahaha WOW, I did a double take when I read this. Is this Evil Jamroll again?!

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

Hahahahahaha WOW, I did a double take when I read this. Is this Evil Jamroll again?!

It's more like For-the-love-of-God-I've-had-it-with-moronic-arguments Jamroll.
Or Tell-it-like-it-is Jamroll.

He doesn't come out often, but he visits once in a while, like that fobby uncle with a handlebar moustache and heavy accent.

[roberto]

[quote=Jamroll;138490]

With respect, that is the stupidest argument I have ever heard, and you are an idiot.

There is little point in writing "with respect" if you are calling the recipient an idiot

Are we here in the West, holding guns over their children, raping their women, enslaving their men, and stealing their natural resources? Because I can tell you are a moron, I will give you the answer. It is "no".

Are Western soldiers in Muslim countries doing the above? The answer, for idiots, is "yes".

It is not clear whether you are suggesting that the policy of the west is to rape, threaten children with guns and steal their natural resources, if it is then you are wrong

Rapes do occur, there are no-doubt situations of threats and bullying, but such behaviour is not policy, as to oil sales the revenues are Iraq’s.

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by roberto

There is little point in writing "with respect" if you are calling the recipient an idiot

I am saying it "with respect", so it is respectful.

Originally Posted by roberto

It is not clear whether you are suggesting that the policy of the west is to rape, threaten children with guns and steal their natural resources, if it is then you are wrong.

What I'm suggesting is that you are also an idiot. Line up beside your friend in the idiot line.
Oh, and by the way, that was "with respect".

[Zeinab]

Originally Posted by roberto

There is little point in writing "with respect" if you are calling the recipient an idiot





It is not clear whether you are suggesting that the policy of the west is to rape, threaten children with guns and steal their natural resources, if it is then you are wrong

Rapes do occur, there are no-doubt situations of threats and bullying, but such behaviour is not policy, as to oil sales the revenues are Iraq’s.

No, he’s suggesting that Martians arrived in the form of Orcs and decided to rape and pillage Iraq to try and find the One ring for Sauron and thus initiate their invasion across the Middle East.
The American/British/Coalition soldiers you see there – they’re fighting the Martians/Orcs.

Hope that that’s cleared it up.

[Seriously, how stupid can somebody get?]

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by roberto

It is not clear whether you are suggesting that the policy of the west is to rape, threaten children with guns and steal their natural resources, if it is then you are wrong

Rapes do occur, there are no-doubt situations of threats and bullying, but such behaviour is not policy, as to oil sales the revenues are Iraq’s.

If it weren't policy, then why is it so widespread with little being done about it? The use of torture is an openly admitted, formally recognized instrument of national policy, approved at the highest level of government, and that's far worse than threats and bullying.

[roberto]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

I am saying it "with respect", so it is respectful.


What I'm suggesting is that you are also an idiot. Line up beside your friend in the idiot line.
Oh, and by the way, that was "with respect".

After such a small reprimand you descend to these childish insults, how sad it must be to be so immature.

[roberto]

Originally Posted by Zeinab

No, he’s suggesting that Martians arrived in the form of Orcs and decided to rape and pillage Iraq to try and find the One ring for Sauron and thus initiate their invasion across the Middle East.
The American/British/Coalition soldiers you see there – they’re fighting the Martians/Orcs.

Hope that that’s cleared it up.

[Seriously, how stupid can somebody get?]

Well I suppose at 17 years, childhood is not far behind.

[roberto]

Originally Posted by Kaminyu

If it weren't policy, then why is it so widespread with little being done about it? The use of torture is an openly admitted, formally recognized instrument of national policy, approved at the highest level of government, and that's far worse than threats and bullying.

As before on these matter I leave the USA side to others for comment, for the British it is not widespread and legal action has been taken where evidence allows.

I can assure you when it comes to sheer brutality the British of today are novices compared to many nationalities.

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by roberto

After such a small reprimand you descend to these childish insults, how sad it must be to be so immature.

Actually on the contrary to being sad, I have to admit it was rather fun to "step out of character" for a post or two.

Although I do sometimes wonder how you misconstrue so badly what I and others are saying, when it came to comments such as "get in the idiot line", I was of course just playing with you.

No hard feelings, my easily ruffled friend.

[roberto]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

Actually on the contrary to being sad, I have to admit it was rather fun to "step out of character" for a post or two.

Although I do sometimes wonder how you misconstrue so badly what I and others are saying, when it came to comments such as "get in the idiot line", I was of course just playing with you.

No hard feelings, my easily ruffled friend.

I consider that your nauseating excuses lack sincerity.