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YouTube - Muslim Father Kills Two Daughters in the USA ( TEXAS ) !

This is what happens when FOBS bring their backwards cultures to this country; another cab driver too. Seriously can we just like inject people from that part of the world with alzheimer's and just teach them Islam over again so that they learn ONLY pure Islam and forget about their barbaric cultures which pollute it.

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm venting but you guys gotta understand that you Arabs and Desis represent the majority of the Western Ummah; and your un-Islamic cultural traditions are REALLY F'n things up for Caucasian, Hispanic, and African-American Muslims. So when you guys shoot yourselves in the foot, you're essentially shooting us all in the feet as well.

But in regards to the video; I'm really suspicious about this Zahir Zaidi kid from the video. The Asian girl just gives us the facts straight up with no hesitation, but this guy has to get all emotional and act like he's a victim. I'm thinking he was involved with one of these girls and may be the reason why Daddy decided to take them out.

Part of me is hoping the father never turns up; if your gonna kill your daughters at least do society a favor and eliminate yourselves from the prescence of actual human beings.

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just teach them Islam over again so that they learn ONLY pure Islam and forget about their barbaric cultures which pollute it.
oh i know a latino aint talkin about barbaric cultures.
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I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm venting but you guys gotta understand that you Arabs adn Desis represent the majority of the Western Ummah; and your un-Islamic cultural traditions are REALLY F'n things up for Caucasian, Hispanic, and African-American Muslims. So when you guys shoot yourselves in the foot, your shooting us all in the feet as well.





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This is what happens when FOBS bring their backwards cultures to this country; another cab driver too. Seriously can we just like inject people from that part of the world with alzheimer's and just teach them Islam over again so that they learn ONLY pure Islam and forget about their barbaric cultures which pollute it.
The problem is clearly not the "backward" cultures or the fobs because killing daughters is not an acceptable action to either. Allahu Alam, if he really did kill his daughters or what was going on with him. But, our duas are for the girls, and that may justice be served in this world and the next.

But, you sound very stupid in your rants against the fobs. Calm down, inshallah.

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But in regards to the video; I'm really suspicious about this Zahir Zaidi kid from the video. The Asian girl just gives us the facts straight up with no hesitation, but this guy has to get all emotional and act like he's a victim. I'm thinking he was involved with one of these girls and may be the reason why Daddy decided to take them out.
No, thats probably not true. Emotional and drama queenish is just the way, we, desis are.
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oh i know a latino aint talkin about barbaric cultures.
Yeah I knew that was coming. I understand some of you guys practically receive sexually arousement from the ethnic debates on Islamica so I'm just gonna redirect you over to this thread http://www.islamicaweb.com/forums/go...ria-women.html

This is basically where I make clear my ethnicity and my views regarding Hispanic-Ameican (key word American) culture.
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No, thats probably not true. Emotional and drama queenish is just the way, we, desis are.
Seeing as how Desis represent the vast majority of Western Muslims, even more so than the Arabs IMO that needs to stop. I have a lot of respect when it comes to Deen of South Asian Muslims, because MashAllah from a numerical standpoint I think that they are the most passionate when it comes to the religion; I mean thats why the majority of this forum is South Asian. However, Desis carry immense cultural baggage along with it; which causes several problems in regards to integrating with both Western Muslims and Westerners in general. As a result they often end up breaking bridges between Western Muslims and their non-Muslim counterparts, as opposed to building new ones.

And I dont think its fair to say that its just the way you are; emotional weakness is not a genetic trait, but rather a cultural one.
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holy shucks, people man, calm down!

nationalism / racism / partisanship really sucks.

cut it out.

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Seeing as how Desis represent the vast majority of Western Muslims, even more so than the Arabs IMO that needs to stop.
As far as I'm aware, in North America, its African-American Muslims that make up the bulk of the Muslim populace.
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Sarah and Amina Yaser Said were buried in a Muslim cemetery in Denton on Saturday. The Lewisville High students were remembered as teens who excelled in academics and athletics.


Patricia Said mourned the loss of her daughters at a Baptist service Saturday at Rahma Funeral Home.

Slain Lewisville sisters mourned at Christian, Muslim services

Relatives of Lewisville High teens plead with father to surrender to police
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Sarah and Amina Yaser Said looked luminescent in their pink dresses, a pink flower in each girl's hair. One might have thought the sisters were sleeping were it not for the matching pink-lined caskets that held them.

Their Christian funeral service Saturday – followed by a Muslim service later in the day – served as a reminder of the promise their short lives held and the needless tragedy of their deaths. Police believe they were killed by their father, a 50-year-old cabdriver.

And the police presence was a reminder that the girls' Egyptian-born father, Yaser Abdel Said, is still on the run.

Amina, 18, and Sarah Yaser Said, 17, who both attended Lewisville High School, were found shot to death in a taxi at an Irving motel Tuesday night.

Before the service, the girls' mother and brother issued a public appeal for Mr. Said to surrender. Patricia Said said her husband needed to be brought to justice so that her "girls can rest in peace." She said that she and her son would remain in hiding until her husband is captured.

"I just want him to pay for what he did to my girls," Mrs. Said said.

Islam Said has previously disputed widespread rumors and media reports that his Muslim father's religion may have been the reason for the killings. Some have speculated that the deaths may have been "honor killings," a practice in which a man kills a female relative who he believes has somehow shamed the family.

Irving police have said that they are exploring all possible motives for the slayings. Police have acknowledged that the family had some previous domestic problems.

Gail Gartrell, the sisters' great-aunt, said Saturday that Mr. Said had physically abused the two girls for years. Around Christmas, the girls' mother – Ms. Gartrell's niece – had fled because of Mr. Said's threats to kill the girls after he learned they had boyfriends, she said.

"She ran with them because she knew he would carry out the threat," Ms. Gartrell said. "This was an honor killing."

She said her niece returned after Mr. Said told her that he would move out so they could reconcile. Within a few days, she said, the girls were dead.

On the night they were found slain, one of the sisters called 911 from a cellphone and said she was dying. Police soon found the two dead of multiple gunshot wounds in a taxi at a service entrance of an Irving hotel.

The funeral at the Rahma Funeral Home on Spring Valley Road highlighted the two vastly different cultures the girls had come from. Mingling among women wearing hajibs covering their hair and loose-fitting flowing clothing were teenagers and adults in Western clothing.

Robert Crisp, a Catholic priest, led a Baptist service, which was followed by a service at a Richardson mosque.

With the small chapel packed and mourners filling the lobby and spilling onto the front sidewalk, strains of the contemporary Christian song "I Can Only Imagine" filled the room.

"It's certainly OK to hurt and to question – and to question even God – to be sad and angry and confused," Father Crisp told the mourners.

Father Crisp said Sarah and Amina had brought joy and hope and should be remembered for how they lived, not how they died. He also mentioned that Amina had blogged that she did not want to be only a memory.

He called upon the crowd to use the girls' lives as an example "to teach us love, hope and looking to the future."

Friends also offered heartfelt recollections of the girls, well-liked students who excelled in athletics and academics.

Kathleen Wong, Sarah's best friend, said she and Sarah had planned to go to college together.

"Sarah always wanted to be a doctor because she wanted to save lives," Kathleen said. "She was more than just a friend. She was an amazing sister."

The short Muslim service was at a gold-domed mosque in Richardson in a cavernous gym, with prayers piped across loudspeakers. The closed caskets were at the far side of the gym, end to end.

Dozens of Muslim men lined up in front of the girls' caskets. About 20 feet behind them were women in hajibs. An imam then led a Muslim prayer.

Dr. Yusuf Kavacki, head of the Richardson mosque, alternating between English and Arabic, told mourners that all living things are destined to die. Another imam talked about families being the most important thing in Islam and the need for parents to work to keep their families strong.
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how about you, what pleasure do you get from being racist?
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yea i do actually

how about you, what pleasure do you get from being racist?


Definition of racism

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

All I have done is call in to question the cultural philosophies of Arabs and Desis which give them social characteristics which often contradict with Islam. I have not once implied any of these characteristics as having to do with their race.

IMO the only statement which I would qualify as racist on this thread is the following made by Bright Broom when he/she stated:

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No, thats probably not true. Emotional and drama queenish is just the way, we, desis are.
I persoally have a huge problem with a statement like that because it appears to imply that Desis are innately incapable of being emotionally strong and disciplined simply because they're genetically prgrammed to be that way. I persoanlly know several South Asian brothers and sisters who would never act that way; which is why I attribute these traits to culture and not race.

That being said please tell me why you take pleasure in having obtuse arguements with people just because of some random genetic code which none of you have any control over.

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As far as I'm aware, in North America, its African-American Muslims that make up the bulk of the Muslim populace.
10 years ago you would probably be right; but right now I think its a pretty even split with a slight edge to South Asians. Could be wrong though; however, when I say Western Muslims I include Western European Muslims as well. And when you take that into account it's not even close. Also take into account that when your average Joe thinks of an African-American; he will rarely assocatie that person with Islam. But when Joe hears the word "Arab man" or "Pakistani man" the association is almost immediate even if the person in question may not be Muslim

My point: You guys are carrying a heavy burden on your shoulders having to represent Islam and Muslims; which I'll give you some credit for; but your dropping the ball WAY too often and we're losing almost every game; our team sucks and some of our new players (Reverts) are starting to regret signing the contract and are looking for a trade (leaving Islam(
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