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Dad charged in teen's death
TheStar.com | GTA | Dad charged in teen's death

A 16-year-old girl is dead and her father has been charged with murder after an attack in a Mississauga home.
Aqsa Parvez, a student at Applewood Heights Secondary School, had been on life support in hospital since yesterday morning.

Police went to the family's two-storey home on Longhorn Trail about 8 a.m. yesterday after receiving a 911 call in which a man allegedly claimed to have killed his daughter.
Paramedics found Aqsa with a faint pulse and rushed her to hospital. She was later transferred to a Toronto hospital and placed on life support.
Peel police said this morning that she died overnight.
Friends at the victim’s school said she feared her father and had argued over her desire to shun the hijab, a traditional shoulder-length head scarf worn by females in devout Muslim families.

Homicide investigators had been standing by, as it soon became clear the young girl wouldn't survive the attack.
Muhammad Parvez, 57, has been remanded in custody and was to make his first court appearance today in a Brampton court.
The victim's brother, 26-year-old Waqas Parvez, was also arrested on a charge of obstructing police.

Neighbours described the family as very private and said several members from three generations have lived in the two-storey home, near Hurontario St. and Eglinton Ave., for just over two years.
School chums say Aqsa had been arguing with her family for months over whether she should wear the hijab.

Pal Ebonie Mitchell, 16, and other friends said Aqsa still wore the hijab to school last year, but rebelled against dressing in it this fall.
They said she would leave home wearing the traditional garment and loose clothing, but would often change into tighter garments at school.
She would change back for the bus trip home.

"Sometimes she even changed her whole outfit in the washroom at school," Mitchell said.

The teen was known to her classmates and Facebook friends as Axa. She posted several pictures of herself on the website in colourful clothes and accessories.
At Aqsa's high school, friends gathered in groups yesterday, struggling to come to grips with what happened and lamenting how she had quarrelled with her father to the point that she recently moved out to live with a friend.

"She said she was always scared of her dad, she was always scared of her brother ... and she's not scared of nobody," said classmate Ashley Garbutt, 16.
"She didn't want to go home ... to the point where she actually wanted to go to shelters."
Friends said the root of her problems was a desire to blend in with friends at school, to wear the fashionable clothes she liked to buy on trips to Toronto's garment district, where she went with friends just last month.
"She liked fashion," said Mitchell. "We went to different stores; she was shopping; she bought lots of clothes."

"She loved clothes, she loved shopping and she loved taking pictures of herself," classmate Dominiquia Holmes-Thompson, 16, said outside the school as friends sobbed at the news.

"She just wanted to show her beauty. She just wanted freedom, freedom from her parents."

"She just wanted to dress like us, just like a normal person," said Holmes-Thompson.

"She was a very kind person, she was really nice; everybody loved her."
Friend Shianne Phillips, 16, said she last spoke with Aqsa on Friday.
"She was crying and she was like ‘I'm really scared to go home. I don't know what I'm going to do.' And that was it," Phillips said.

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Another sad example of conflicting cultures and values. This is a very common dilemma which Muslim families face living in the west and some resort to violence out of sheer frustration as this case shows.

The way forward is to teach children from an early age about the Islamic beliefs and teachings and for girls to wear the hijab from an early age so that they understand and get used to wearing it. Also where possible to send the children to Islamic schools or predominantly Muslim ones where wearing the Islamic dress code is seen as normal as opposed to majority non-Muslim schools where the pressure is greater to follow the freedom lifestyle and ignore the commands of Allah swt.
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Another sad example of conflicting cultures and values. This is a very common dilemma which Muslim families face living in the west and some resort to violence out of sheer frustration as this case shows.

The way forward is to teach children from an early age about the Islamic beliefs and teachings and for girls to wear the hijab from an early age so that they understand and get used to wearing it. Also where possible to send the children to Islamic schools or predominantly Muslim ones where wearing the Islamic dress code is seen as normal as opposed to majority non-Muslim schools where the pressure is greater to follow the freedom lifestyle and ignore the commands of Allah swt.
No, it's a sad commentary on failing to realize when we have failed as parents. And it's a sad commentary on failing to realize that we must rely on Allah, and not violence, in times when we have failed.

And it's a your comment is a sad example of how easy it is to blame 'western culture" when it is actually the cultural, un-Islamic attitude of the father that led to this sad tragedy.
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No, it's a sad commentary on failing to realize when we have failed as parents. And it's a sad commentary on failing to realize that we must rely on Allah, and not violence, in times when we have failed.

And it's a your comment is a sad example of how easy it is to blame 'western culture" when it is actually the cultural, un-Islamic attitude of the father that led to this sad tragedy.
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Hrmm, wow that is definitely the saddest thing I've read today, amongst other :S I agree, definitely need to teach your kids from an early age. I wonder, if the father recently reverted and realized he never taught his kids the proper etiquettes, and I guess when he realized his mistakes...it was a little too late.


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No, it's a sad commentary on failing to realize when we have failed as parents. And it's a sad commentary on failing to realize that we must rely on Allah, and not violence, in times when we have failed.

And it's a your comment is a sad example of how easy it is to blame 'western culture" when it is actually the cultural, un-Islamic attitude of the father that led to this sad tragedy.
Dang you're being a little harsh on the fella don't you think? I think you can both agree that the root of this is the lack of islamic knowledge?
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Dang you're being a little harsh on the fella don't you think? I think you can both agree that the root of this is the lack of islamic knowledge?

A little harsh? The guy KILLED his daughter........
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Dang you're being a little harsh on the fella don't you think? I think you can both agree that the root of this is the lack of islamic knowledge?
The root of the problem is a lack of Islamic knowledge on the part of the parents, not a lack of imparting Islamic knowledge to the daughter, as he indicated.

Murder is not sanctioned in Islam. And to make the daughter's lack of knowledge and adherance to western values more important than this simple fact is deplorable.

You can do everything possible to guide your children to Islam, and they can still turn out misguided. The recourse for this is not murder.

In these cases, it is much more likely that the father's own ego and sense of honor was injured, than any Islamic values, because it makes no sense for a practicing, cognizant Muslim to murder their child for not following hijab.
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I agree, it's like not wearing hijaab is a bigger sin than murder.
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Dang you're being a little harsh on the fella don't you think? I think you can both agree that the root of this is the lack of islamic knowledge?

A little harsh? The guy KILLED his daughter........
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The root of the problem is a lack of Islamic knowledge on the part of the parents, not a lack of imparting Islamic knowledge to the daughter, as he indicated.

Murder is not sanctioned in Islam. And to make the daughter's lack of knowledge and adherance to western values more important than this simple fact is deplorable.

You can do everything possible to guide your children to Islam, and they can still turn out misguided. The recourse for this is not murder.

In these cases, it is much more likely that the father's own ego and sense of honor was injured, than any Islamic values, because it makes no sense for a practicing, cognizant Muslim to murder their child for not following hijab.

Ok I think I needed to be a little more clear when I type. I was referring to ZAKK's reply to brother Showkat's "COMMENT:" I am on the same page as you guys, murder is no excuse, specifically for this case. As you mentioned, clearly the fathers ego was hurt.

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"She just wanted to show her beauty. She just wanted freedom, freedom from her parents."

umm, shuttup?
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"She said she was always scared of her dad, she was always scared of her brother ... and she's not scared of nobody,"
"She didn't want to go home ... to the point where she actually wanted to go to shelters."
Friends said the root of her problems was a desire to blend in with friends at school, to wear the fashionable clothes she liked to buy on trips to Toronto's garment district, where she went with friends just last month.
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Obviously this issue extends far beyond hijab and when asked, teenagers will be more likely to cite reasons that they can identify with. Its great to make it all about the hijab, but that conclusion was drawn based almost entirely on the comments of a few teenagers. Allahu Alim...
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this is really sad. inna lillahi wainna ilaihi rajioon.

ftr, this is why i'm all for introducing girls to hijab at a much younger age. because it becomes part of your identity and even if at a later age you find yourself wanting to part from it, you probably wont because you're so used to it.
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TheStar.com | GTA | Dad charged in teen's death

A 16-year-old girl is dead and her father has been charged with murder after an attack in a Mississauga home.
Aqsa Parvez, a student at Applewood Heights Secondary School, had been on life support in hospital since yesterday morning.

Police went to the family's two-storey home on Longhorn Trail about 8 a.m. yesterday after receiving a 911 call in which a man allegedly claimed to have killed his daughter.
Paramedics found Aqsa with a faint pulse and rushed her to hospital. She was later transferred to a Toronto hospital and placed on life support.
Peel police said this morning that she died overnight.
Friends at the victim’s school said she feared her father and had argued over her desire to shun the hijab, a traditional shoulder-length head scarf worn by females in devout Muslim families.

Homicide investigators had been standing by, as it soon became clear the young girl wouldn't survive the attack.
Muhammad Parvez, 57, has been remanded in custody and was to make his first court appearance today in a Brampton court.
The victim's brother, 26-year-old Waqas Parvez, was also arrested on a charge of obstructing police.

Neighbours described the family as very private and said several members from three generations have lived in the two-storey home, near Hurontario St. and Eglinton Ave., for just over two years.
School chums say Aqsa had been arguing with her family for months over whether she should wear the hijab.

Pal Ebonie Mitchell, 16, and other friends said Aqsa still wore the hijab to school last year, but rebelled against dressing in it this fall.
They said she would leave home wearing the traditional garment and loose clothing, but would often change into tighter garments at school.
She would change back for the bus trip home.

"Sometimes she even changed her whole outfit in the washroom at school," Mitchell said.

The teen was known to her classmates and Facebook friends as Axa. She posted several pictures of herself on the website in colourful clothes and accessories.
At Aqsa's high school, friends gathered in groups yesterday, struggling to come to grips with what happened and lamenting how she had quarrelled with her father to the point that she recently moved out to live with a friend.

"She said she was always scared of her dad, she was always scared of her brother ... and she's not scared of nobody," said classmate Ashley Garbutt, 16.
"She didn't want to go home ... to the point where she actually wanted to go to shelters."
Friends said the root of her problems was a desire to blend in with friends at school, to wear the fashionable clothes she liked to buy on trips to Toronto's garment district, where she went with friends just last month.
"She liked fashion," said Mitchell. "We went to different stores; she was shopping; she bought lots of clothes."

"She loved clothes, she loved shopping and she loved taking pictures of herself," classmate Dominiquia Holmes-Thompson, 16, said outside the school as friends sobbed at the news.

"She just wanted to show her beauty. She just wanted freedom, freedom from her parents."

"She just wanted to dress like us, just like a normal person," said Holmes-Thompson.

"She was a very kind person, she was really nice; everybody loved her."
Friend Shianne Phillips, 16, said she last spoke with Aqsa on Friday.
"She was crying and she was like ‘I'm really scared to go home. I don't know what I'm going to do.' And that was it," Phillips said.

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Another sad example of conflicting cultures and values. This is a very common dilemma which Muslim families face living in the west and some resort to violence out of sheer frustration as this case shows.

The way forward is to teach children from an early age about the Islamic beliefs and teachings and for girls to wear the hijab from an early age so that they understand and get used to wearing it. Also where possible to send the children to Islamic schools or predominantly Muslim ones where wearing the Islamic dress code is seen as normal as opposed to majority non-Muslim schools where the pressure is greater to follow the freedom lifestyle and ignore the commands of Allah swt.
Between you and me, and any sane minded individual here, you are clearly LOST my friend. LOST and CONFUSED. There you are, bolding the text on what you thought was wrong about her - it clearly exposes your blured vision in seeing the REAL CRIMINAL in this case. You tried to turn HER INTO A CRIMINAL instead.

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Yeah this was all over the radio today ... really retarded.

Its what happens when parents don't teach their kids properly and instead try to force things on them.
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Or maybe as a child she wasn't told to/asked to wear hijab but when she finally hit puberty her parents started enforcing all these things on her and its a lot of pressure to change at that time b