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Old 11-29-2007, 01:48 PM
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The Crusade enemy, when invaded ‘Irāq, meant to control this nation and reinforce the Zionist state, from the Nile to the Euphrates. However, Allāh granted your sons, the Mujāhidīn, by standing firm before the strongest Crusaders attack to the Islāmic land.


They stood strong against this attack for over three years, disbursing their soles and their wealth. They stood against this massive military, media, and economical attack not for anything except to defend you, your religion, your sons, and your honor. Allāh dispersed the enemies’ gathering and their defeat became clearer to whoever has eyesight and a prudent heart.

Here are your sons, by the grace of Allāh, indulging into one battle after another, and attack after attack; they, by the will of Allāh, hold the upper hand in the battle field now.

If it wasn’t for the continuous and ongoing media muting, you would’ve seen the astonishing. By Allāh! It’s the championships and the victories coming to us, and you my nation, should thank Allāh for this great bounty that Allāh prepared a group of your sons, the Mujāhidīn, defending you and protecting your honor, otherwise the Sunnah in ‘Irāq would’ve been in between a revulsion Crusade and a betraying Shī’ah. And the women of the Sunnah would’ve been on the laps of the revulsion Crusades and the betraying Shī’ah; Abū Ghraib and the interior ministry jails remain memorable.

My treasured nation:

We are in ‘Irāq, a stone throw away from the night journey of Rasūlullāh, sallallāhu ‘alayhī wassallam. We will fight in ‘Irāq whilst our eyes are on Bayt al-Maqdis, which will never be freed except with a guiding Qur’ān and a prevailing sword; “but sufficient is Your Lord as a Guide and helper.” (Al-Furqān: 31)

The history and experience had showed that you have no one after Allāh except your Mujāhidīn sons; they are your protection, your strong shield, and your beating heart. They become happy to your happiness and sad to your sadness; they stay up all night for your protection and have jealousy for you. Their hearts burst in sorrow for your state, and their tongues never stop chanting: O’ Allāh elevate the state of humiliation and defeat away from my nation! O’ Allāh bring back victory to my nation!
Abu Mus'ab al-Zarqawi (ra)


Al-Quds is the third most sacred places in the sight of Allah. I think we have forgotten this fact..
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Bro, you need to stop being so obsessed with what's going on overseas in places where you cannot effect any substantial change. Make dua for the Muslimeen yes, but don't waste your time and energy fretting about all the ruckus going on over there. There's enough other Muslims over there, to do all that worrying anyways.

If you live in the UK, just concentrate on your studies, supporting family, and then strengthening the Muslim community local to you, because there's much more opportunity in that arena, as well as being a more practical route for you to expend your energy and efforts.
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I appreciate the advise you gave but only parts of it. Inshallah, I will do what you council me to with regards to the Muslims in my own area and locality. But I will have to reject outright your claim and request for me to forget or abandon the brothers who are at this very moment shaping the Ummah's future bi ithnillah, because we are unable to benefit them in any way. You should know, brother, that this delusion of just making du'a for the Muslimeen is not "all that we can do". As you already know, propaganda of the crusaders has peaked and unfortunatly many Muslims succumbed and many have never even heard the words of fellow Muslims first-hand, and instead have gotten into the habit of relying on the Crusader mouth-pieces to (mis)inform them of these individuals and their supposed actions and intentions. One thing we are obliged to do is use what resources we have to resist the Media wing of the current Crusade, and by presenting simple yet (unfortunatly) rare accounts of brothers fi sabi lillah, such as the one above, great changes can occur.

[need to go for now, business to attend. I will finish this post later, salam]
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I appreciate the advise you gave but only parts of it. Inshallah, I will do what you council me to with regards to the Muslims in my own area and locality. But I will have to reject outright your claim and request for me to forget or abandon the brothers who are at this very moment shaping the Ummah's future bi ithnillah, because we are unable to benefit them in any way. You should know, brother, that this delusion of just making du'a for the Muslimeen is not "all that we can do". As you already know, propaganda of the crusaders has peaked and unfortunatly many Muslims succumbed and many have never even heard the words of fellow Muslims first-hand, and instead have gotten into the habit of relying on the Crusader mouth-pieces to (mis)inform them of these individuals and their supposed actions and intentions. One thing we are obliged to do is use what resources we have to resist the Media wing of the current Crusade, and by presenting simple yet (unfortunatly) rare accounts of brothers fi sabi lillah, such as the one above, great changes can occur.

[need to go for now, business to attend. I will finish this post later, salam]
Salam my respected brother in Islam

I understnad your point but what can you do in all reality? YOu could educate, give charity to the suffering in that area, or you could commit your energies full time and make hijrah to those areas.

Making posts ion thie internet really does nothing for your cause.

I pray your education goes well inshaaAllah and that you good for the ummah in some way.
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zarq shouldve directed his eyes up instead of to the west

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But I will have to reject outright your claim and request for me to forget or abandon the brothers who are at this very moment shaping the Ummah's future bi ithnillah, because we are unable to benefit them in any way.
Cool the hyperbole, thanks.

I didn't advise you to forget or abandon them - I said focus your efforts on that which you can bring change in.

If you are talking about raising awareness about what's going on in the Muslim world so that other Muslims may know, then fine do that, but don't limit yourself to one particular region or area to the exclusion of the others.

As for those who are "shaping" the Ummah, like I said, do your part and concentrate on what you can do - those others will do it themselves.
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Zarqawi was a psycho. Even Bin Laden told him to chill out. If the world's number one terrorist is telling you to chill out, then that shows how off the wall you are.

I don't think Shahnawaz is a mujahid, he's just a confused teenager tried to forge an identity in the post-modernist world and he's combatting nihilism by adopting a manichean worldview in order to substantiate his own existence; much like many Muslim youth his age.

Give him some real lifestyle choices and control over his destiny and he'll thaw out.
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Salam my respected brother in Islam

I understnad your point but what can you do in all reality? YOu could educate, give charity to the suffering in that area, or you could commit your energies full time and make hijrah to those areas.

Making posts ion thie internet really does nothing for your cause.

I pray your education goes well inshaaAllah and that you good for the ummah in some way.
Of all the "tips" offered, this is the best hands down. I like the sincerity and humility of the post. Jinnzaman, you should take a look at yourself first before you attack others. And looking at your post count, you could be doing a lot more for the community than wasting your time on a message board. 'nuff said.
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Al-Quds is the third most sacred places in the sight of Allah. I think we have forgotten this fact..
Salam,

I don't think most people have forgotten, but if you look at from a cost-benefit analysis, hasn't al-Quds and Palestine already been partially lost to the Israelis? The "Crusaders", as they're often referred to, are in the Muslim heartlands, Saudia Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan. Shouldn't the focus be on strengthening these areas first?
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Of all the "tips" offered, this is the best hands down. I like the sincerity and humility of the post. Jinnzaman, you should take a look at yourself first before you attack others. And looking at your post count, you could be doing a lot more for the community than wasting your time on a message board. 'nuff said.
The rulings of the Shari'ah do not change based on necessity.

We should support the liberation of all Muslim lands, but through a lawful means.

None of these groups are operating fully within the Shari'ah.

You cannot establish an Islamic state or society or civilization through un-Islamic means.
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And looking at your post count, you could be doing a lot more for the community than wasting your time on a message board. 'nuff said.
subhanallah, you know we need one segment of the community to just do the work of studying, analyzing, reasoning and thinking. And if someone is doing that lay out an intellectual foundation to build a community upon, then in my eyes thats the best thing anybody can do.

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Zarqawi was a psycho. Even Bin Laden told him to chill out. If the world's number one terrorist is telling you to chill out, then that shows how off the wall you are.

I don't think Shahnawaz is a mujahid, he's just a confused teenager tried to forge an identity in the post-modernist world and he's combatting nihilism by adopting a manichean worldview in order to substantiate his own existence; much like many Muslim youth his age.

Give him some real lifestyle choices and control over his destiny and he'll thaw out.
So says the ayatolla (kafir by ijma') loving sufi who thinks its smart to mix in a lil T.S Elliot in his mostly neo-con observations of world events.

Number 1 terrorist? You are a fool who uses the West as a standered for passing judgement on Muslims. If you had truely used Islam as your benchmark then such foolish words would not have come out of your mouth. The least you wuld've done is hold your tongue? You can only wish to have sacrafised for the deen as much as this "teorrorist" has. Since when can someone of such low virtue make such bold statements about someone who undoubtdly has made enormouse sacrafices for Islam? Allah has declared was on those who fight his awliya', fighting can be with words and through backbiting.
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They fight in Iraq because they are too cowardly to fight in Jerusalem
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Well they dont really fight much in Iraq now that the sunni arabs turned against them and are killing and driving them out, and they declared every major sunni tribal leader and their followers to be kaffirs... making the entire country of Iraq kaffir
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