[ShiaHazara]

Originally Posted by Macaca

It is amazing...alhamdulillah

stay out of afghan affairs.

[ShiaHazara]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

Taliban takeover counts as islamisation? You seem to take some pride in that, don't you son. Have you shared your views vis a vis the taliban with your friends at whichever American law school you attend?

we all know that he practices an absurd amount of hypocrisy.

wants the talibanization of muslim countries while living comfortably in snip, lol you'd expect him to put his money where his mouth is and go live in swat but guess not.

[jinnzaman]

My job is to evaluate the truth. The Taliban committed atrocities yes, but their is an excessive amount of propaganda against them. Only a fool would deny that they have survived a pretty impressive thrashing by American forces and have remained resurgent and have spread out even into Pakistan.

This is a statement of fact. If you do not like this fact, then put your head in the sand like an ostrich. It has nothing to do with patriotism or whatever ideology you adhere to (i.e. secularism, democracy, capitalism). Islamism is resurgent all over the Muslim world and the only thing thats stopping it from seizing power is Western interference.

[ShiaHazara]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

My job is to evaluate the truth. The Taliban committed atrocities yes, but their is an excessive amount of propaganda against them. Only a fool would deny that they have survived a pretty impressive thrashing by American forces and have remained resurgent and have spread out even into Pakistan.

This is a statement of fact. If you do not like this fact, then put your head in the sand like an ostrich. It has nothing to do with patriotism or whatever ideology you adhere to (i.e. secularism, democracy, capitalism). Islamism is resurgent all over the Muslim world and the only thing thats stopping it from seizing power is Western interference.

you have not lived under them, so of course you would romanticize them.

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

My job is to evaluate the truth. The Taliban committed atrocities yes, but their is an excessive amount of propaganda against them. Only a fool would deny that they have survived a pretty impressive thrashing by American forces and have remained resurgent and have spread out even into Pakistan.

This is a statement of fact. If you do not like this fact, then put your head in the sand like an ostrich. It has nothing to do with patriotism or whatever ideology you adhere to (i.e. secularism, democracy, capitalism). Islamism is resurgent all over the Muslim world and the only thing thats stopping it from seizing power is Western interference.

I have no problems with saying the Taliban are coming back, my problem is with the term you used to describe it - "islamisation". That statement does not imply I support them, or consider what they are doing islamic.

You likened the Taliban taking over Afghanistan and Pakistan with "islamisation". Unlike an infidel who might make that claim, you are a Muslim who supports political islamisation of muslim countries. Are we to infer from that statement that you think the Taliban taking over is Islamic?

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

I have no problems with saying the Taliban are coming back, my problem is with the term you used to describe it - "islamisation". That statement does not imply I support them, or consider what they are doing islamic.

You likened the Taliban taking over Afghanistan and Pakistan with "islamisation". Unlike an infidel who might make that claim, you are a Muslim who supports political islamisation of muslim countries. Are we to infer from that statement that you think the Taliban taking over is Islamic?

Islamisation means Muslim countries taking Islam and giving it a greater role in economics, law, and politics. Its antithesis is secularism. The Taliban establishing a presence in large swathes of territory and transforming social relationships in a manner that is clearly religiously oriented as opposed secular oriented is a statement of fact, not opinion.

But if you want to keep playing semantics, be my guest.

[LEGALEAGLE]

Originally Posted by Akram2

Most people in Punjab and Sindhi dont like Talibans. Even many of the religious imams have spoken against thier actions. I really doubt they can takeover Punjab and Sindh without any ground support at all.

Do you get all your info from a satellite map ?

Aren't you the person who claimed that there weren't any pakhtuns in swat...

A question for Aryan...and I don't mean to offend.

Do you pray (by which I mean any of the 5 daily prayers) ? fast ? give zakat ?

[Foxhole]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

...

Islamism is resurgent all over the Muslim world and the only thing thats stopping it from seizing power is Western interference.

Absolutely true.

[the_only_one]

If this news has any grain of truth in it, then this will cause a lot of chaos not only in the west, also among the muslim nation...may God Al mighty protect our ummah!

[Shahnawaz]

May Allah hasten His help to the Ummah and give them the foothold over the Enemies of this Deen!

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Foxhole

Absolutely true.

With that said, the America isn't fighting Islamism for the love of Muslims, but because it relates to the preservation of its own existential destiny, economic dominance, and political/military supremacy.

The control of energy markets is absolutely necessary in beating out Russia, China, and India and stifling their economic growth which will prevent them from modernizing their military and challenging American supremacy.

At the end of the day, this is all about the three maxims developed by Professor Lil' Kim, namely, "Money, Power, Respect"

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by LEGALEAGLE

A question for Aryan...and I don't mean to offend.

Do you pray (by which I mean any of the 5 daily prayers) ? fast ? give zakat ?

and why should that be any of your business?

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

My job is to evaluate the truth. The Taliban committed atrocities yes, but their is an excessive amount of propaganda against them. Only a fool would deny that they have survived a pretty impressive thrashing by American forces and have remained resurgent and have spread out even into Pakistan.

This is a statement of fact. If you do not like this fact, then put your head in the sand like an ostrich. It has nothing to do with patriotism or whatever ideology you adhere to (i.e. secularism, democracy, capitalism). Islamism is resurgent all over the Muslim world and the only thing thats stopping it from seizing power is Western interference.

you mean fanatical wahabism. i could say the same thing, general mushy has alot of propoganda put out by him by fundamentalists. the saudi kings have had alot of propoganda put out against them. if you love the taliban that much, you should stop using technology altogether, throw out your tv, cd's, radios, etc.

[LEGALEAGLE]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

and why should that be any of your business?

errm...you're Aryan ?

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by LEGALEAGLE

errm...you're Aryan ?

why dont you worry about your prayers instead of other peoples prayers. its one thing to remind them to pray, its another thing to ask such a personal question to someone. what if he doesnt pray and he tells you that. you are now a witness to his sins right?