[ShiaHazara]

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Sunni group attacks al-Qaeda base

A Sunni faction has killed 18 al-Qaeda militants in an attack on a compound near the Iraqi city of Samarra, police have said.

The faction is one of several Sunni former insurgent groups that have now turned against al-Qaeda.

Our correspondent says many of the Sunni tribes that used to provide safe havens for the militants are actively combating al-Qaeda.

[AmroodWaala]

Originally Posted by ShiaHazara

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Sunni group attacks al-Qaeda base

insurgency was never monolithic. so nothing new here

[Shahnawaz]

Originally Posted by AmroodWaala

insurgency was never monolithic. so nothing new here

My point exactly...

But this part actually made me smile from ear to ear.

On Friday, a suicide bomber detonated his explosives belt in the house of Sunni anti-al-Qaeda tribal leader Sheikh Faez al-Obeidi, killing him and four of his relatives.

Those killed were members of the Diyala Salvation Council.



Ten others were wounded in the blast, which happened near the town of Khalis.

Ila jahannam

[MossadConspiracy]

This is why Al-Qaeda is getting rolled up in Iraq, they are now mass killing the people they claim to represent (sunni arabs) right there alongside the people that they've sworn to murder (coalition troops, shia and kurd civilians, iraqi armed forces). Its no wonder their ability to carry out attacks has been degraded so much, their level of activity is so low, and security in Anbar has improved so much. If they're all killed or forced out, which may happen soon, the Iraqis might even be able to comprehensively settle their sectarian conflict too inshallah

[Shahnawaz]

Remember clown, you are the same one who less than a year ago was proclaiming the resistence to be over and done with in Afghanistan. Remember your gloating at the supposed lack of strength of the Taliban. I doubt your smile is as big now.

This will be the same regarding Iraq. You and your neo-con buddies' wishes are but a dream. It is far from reality. Always making out pennies to be pounds, centimeters to be miles, etc. You know this war is lost and a generation has awoken.

So I say to you what Allah directed us to say to you camp:

Mootu bi ghaizhikum
perish in your own rage [at the sight of the return of Islam]

[MossadConspiracy]

No I said that the Taliban would never again rule Afghanistan, and nobody can read the future but it seems just as unlikely today as last year. They've been reduced to a gang of killers who put ball bearings through the heads of children and deal heroin, but the amount of control they exert has not increased over any part of Afghanistan and has only diminished. And the most ruthless killer among them Dadullah 1 got toasted. In fact, the famed "spring offensive" that they always claim to be preparing didnt even materialize last spring. Maybe they were taking the year off preparing for a super duper mega spring offensive this spring

[Anderson]

Al Qaeda dug their own grave- it was moronic to think killing shia and later sunni civillians was part of jihad. Last month's coalition body count was just 40 the lowest since September 2003, showing how crappy they've gone.

Al Qaeda have lost their appeal in the one place they could have had considerable support, I expect them to die out and return to exclusively killing civillians though in less frequent though still high profile attacks.

Inshallah a day will come when Al Qaeda and American tyranny in Iraq has come to an end, until then its just good to know things are dying down.

The only way they can regain support is by posting more videos of farmers and their donkeys walking by and having a caption informing the audience how they didn't blow them up cos they were civilian.

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by Anderson

Inshallah a day will come when Al Qaeda and American tyranny in Iraq has come to an end, until then its just good to know things are dying down.

doesnt that seem highly likely to you?

[Anderson]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

doesnt that seem highly likely to you?

I don't see their being an all out peace in Iraq at best it will be like Algeria or Afghanistan with a bunch of loonies indulging in blood orgies.

[MossadConspiracy]

not peace but Al-Qaeda seems to be getting smoked out and America is going to be on the run in 2 years at the most. Even if things are tense between the Iraqi factions and the dream of a successful inclusive democracy in Iraq dies and is buried forever, a tense order is still order of some kind. I really think the Iraqis might be in the process of dodging all-out civil war right now

god knows best

ws

[Shahnawaz]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

No I said that the Taliban would never again rule Afghanistan, and nobody can read the future but it seems just as unlikely today as last year. They've been reduced to a gang of killers who put ball bearings through the heads of children and deal heroin, but the amount of control they exert has not increased over any part of Afghanistan and has only diminished. And the most ruthless killer among them Dadullah 1 got toasted. In fact, the famed "spring offensive" that they always claim to be preparing didnt even materialize last spring. Maybe they were taking the year off preparing for a super duper mega spring offensive this spring

For crying out loud! You my friend are all but delusional. Is this the way you comfort your silly self when faced with the harsh realities on the ground? LOOOL!

Well you're about to lose a whole lot more sleep, you coward. Because your lies are about to be exposed! Admit that you know nothing about these issues, or that you are hiding the facts! One or the other, clown!

Regarding your claim that the Taliban are hated and the US being loved, heres what the Afghans say:

Reporting on the deteriorating security environment in Afghanistan, Chris Sands of The Independent quoted ordinary Afghans, saying, “The difference between when the Taliban were in government and now is the same as the difference between land and sky. Now we are sick of life and if we are sick of life, how can we enjoy it? What is the meaning of life for us? At that time it had meaning, now it is nothing.’” (May 10, 2007).
Another Afghan compared the present state of affairs in Afghanistan with the Taliban era in these words: “’Yes, we want the Taliban back,’ said Haji Abdul Rahman, a tribal elder. ‘OK, they had some negative points, but they had a lot more positive points than the Karzai government. If Mullah Omar once said, ‘Stop cultivating poppies,’ no one would do it all over Afghanistan. Forget about Karzai — even if his grandfather and father came back from the grave and came together with all the coalition forces, they could not stop poppies being grown.’” (Chris Sands, April 1, 2007).
Yet another Afghan says: “I can only talk about Kandahar city. I think life under the Taliban was very good. If we did not have a full stomach, we could at least get some food and go to sleep. If we went out somewhere, there were no problems. How about now? If we go out, we don’t know if we will arrive home or not. If there is an explosion and the Americans are passing, they will just open fire on everyone.”
These reports simply vindicate those Muslim writers who reported in late 1990s that the law and order situation in Afghanistan was at its best in the past 25 years.
Interestingly Afghans are more fearful of the US and NATO forces today than they were of the Taliban five years ago. Note the opening lines of Chris Sands April 8, 2007 report: “Faiz Mohammed Karigar, a father of two, fled Kandahar when the Taliban held power in Afghanistan because he was against their restrictions on education. Now he wants the fundamentalists back.
‘When the Taliban were here, I escaped to the border with Iran, but I was never worried about my family,’ he said. ‘Every single minute of the last three years I have been very worried. Maybe tonight the Americans will come to my house, molest my wife and children and arrest me.’”

Independent

And your obviously in denyal if don't accept the fact that the Taliban control majority of Southern Afghanistan:

"The Taliban frontline now cuts halfway through the country, encompassing all of the southern provinces," the Senlis Council report says. The Senlis Council is an international policy think tank with offices in Kabul, London, Paris and Brussels.

The tide has turned: Taliban have retaken control of southern Afghanistan – Support from local population for Central government and international military presence has been lost

this is 2006

WASHINGTON, Sept 5: Afghanistan is “falling back into the hands of the Taliban” and US-backed troops are fighting in a lawless land, says a report released on Tuesday.

here is 2007:

When I lived in Kabul a couple of years ago, it seemed unimaginable that the Taliban could return. The regime was considered a spent force and generally disliked by Afghans. Mullah Omar gathered his associates, told them they were on their own and fled on his motorcycle.

Today there are reports of Taliban attacks as close as two hours from the capital. Nato's forces are getting hammered in the south by an astonishingly strong insurgency. Suicide bombs, utterly alien to the Afghan fighting culture, are now common.

try and deny this, fool!

or this:

2007 has been the deadliest for the U.S. military here since the 2001 invasion.

ANd regarding the nonesense that comes out of the mouths of Neo-CON clowns about Taliban being drug peddlers, then everyone knows how stupid this claim is:

The Taleban's fight against opium production in Afghanistan was the "most effective" drug control policy of modern times, research suggests.

BBC


There, fool. Not much of this is my own words, rather they are facts given to us by the people on the ground. So there's no need for Munafiqeen like yourself to give your "opinions" on these issues, as we know they are far from balanced, to say the least!

[MossadConspiracy]

quoting an afghan is not the same as quoting every single afghan in the world. there is a science called statistics

[Shahnawaz]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

quoting an afghan is not the same as quoting every single afghan in the world. there is a science called statistics

Your a joke. Those quoteS (notice the "S", it represents the plural form of something) are collected in a a survey carried out by the Independent. AFTER gaterhing the results they came to the conclusion that, the Afghans "want the Taliban back".

And if that wasn't enough of a nightmare for you, here's another story fresh off the press:

Pro-Taliban fighters have advanced in recent days and the government says they now control as much as 70 per cent of the Swat valley.

Taliban expand in Pakistan.

Read it and weep, clown!

So much for crying! This thread probably sends shivers down the spine of not just Mossad, but the thread maker Hazara and all the other clowns who hate Islam yet are too cowardly to say it. LOL.

Wa Qul Jaa al-Haqu wa zahaqal Batil

Say truth has come and falsehood has perished!

Wa lillahil Hamd

[MossadConspiracy]

your links dont work, you should learn to link things correctly using this forum's embedded link format. However according to the quote you posted there was no survey conducted by the "Independet", just interviews and quotes from some afghans. Do you know what a survey is? If you did you would know that it isnt what was described

Other indices for popular sentiment are election turnouts, election results, public media, etc. All of which have been very clearly against what the Taliban and their bedfellows from the middle east have been saying about their level of public support.

By the way, Pakistan is not Afghanistan. The Taliban are running wild in certain parts of Pakistan because nobody is fighting them and thus they are able to intimidate local populations in a manner that they have not been able to accomplish in Afghanistan since their regime was crushed in 2001. Nevertheless even in those remote regions of Pakistan they are easily dislodged when pressure does get applied against them