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Hijab a safety risk, Que. taekwondo team told

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A Quebec taekwondo team consisting mainly of Muslim girls withdrew from a tournament after they were barred from taking part while wearing their hijabs.

"I feel very sad because we practised so hard," 11-year-old Bissan Mansour, who wears a hijab, told The Canadian Press on Sunday. "We pulled out for a useless reason."

The team has been practicing the Korean martial art for three years, and some members have won medals in competition. The team said on Sunday the hijabs -- which five of its six team members wear underneath their helmets -- have never been a problem until now.

Right before the competition in Longueuil, the team said a referee told them to either remove their hijabs or leave the tournament.

"In the past few years we used to compete, and there was no problem," team coach Medhi Sbeiti told CTV Montreal. "What's the problem this year?"

International referee Stephane Menard said on Sunday that the decision was made for safety reasons, and that it came out of a referees' meeting in Longueuil earlier in the day.

Menard told CP that the hijab isn't included under the equipment allowed under World Tae Kwon Do Federation rules.

"We applied the rules to the letter," he said.

The fear is that part of the hijab could come loose during a bout. Taekwondo involves kicks and throws.

The team is made up of six girls between eight and 12 years old, and is affiliated with a Muslim community centre in Montreal.

Team member Batoul Atwi told CTV Montreal that she was angry and disappointed after she and her teammates were sidelined at the Raymond Mourad tournament.

Tournament founder Raymond Mourad said he wanted officials to let the Muslim girls compete this time, but his pleas were ignored.

"They should have let them fight," Mourad told CTV Montreal. The girls withdrew following the decision. A boys team from the same centre also withdrew. The $35 tournament fee each member paid was reimbursed.

Mourad wanted the officials to let them compete, but he couldn't sway them.

"The kids who came today, we could have let them compete and warned them for next time," Mourad said.

Other controversies

Sunday's incident marks the second time in recent months the hijab has been the centre of controversy at an amateur sporting event in Quebec involving pre-teens.

In February, an 11-year-old Muslim girl from Ottawa was asked to remove her hijab at a soccer tournament in Laval, north of Montreal, due to safety concerns. She refused and her team pulled out of the tournament.

And a Montreal Muslim woman recently complained that she was forced to choose between her hijab and a job as a prison guard. Authorities also cited safety concerns in that case.

Debate over "reasonable accommodation" of racial, cultural and religious minorities surfaced several times during the Quebec election campaign.

It has become such a hot-button issue that Premier Jean Charest has formed a committee to study it.

With a report from CTV Montreal's Annie DeMelt and files from The Canadian Press

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Xenophobic, francophone nationalists in Quebec are retards.

Pretty soon they'll outlaw the hijab even in private, secluded places because some bird might get tangled up in one end of the scarf, and strangle the woman pulling on the cloth as it tries to escape.
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Yeah, they should just separate already.


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Yeah, they should just separate already.
No kidding.

I want my Referendum vote back.
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No kidding.

I want my Referendum vote back.
Did you hear about the Herouxville councillor who said yesterday that the Charter of Rights and Feedoms has to be changed to drop protection for religion.. or otherwrise, provinces like his own should separate.

Go ahead and separate then.

He called it "a tool to destroy our country"...


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Xenophobic, francophone nationalists in Quebec are retards.

Pretty soon they'll outlaw the hijab even in private, secluded places because some bird might get tangled up in one end of the scarf, and strangle the woman pulling on the cloth as it tries to escape.
LOL thats funny. soon fish will get stuck in them and dolphins and whales will be beached cuz they will get the scarf stuck in their blow hole and won't be able to breath loL. Soo silly.
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Did you hear about the Herouxville councillor who said yesterday that the Charter of Rights and Feedoms has to be changed to drop protection for religion.. or otherwrise, provinces like his own should separate.

Go ahead and separate then.

He called it "a tool to destroy our country"...
Yeah, they're idiots, like all the other frenchies.

CTV had a really good segment on their talk-show "The Verdict" where they had Ezra Levant, Shahina Siddiqui (from CAIR) and Mannon Cornellier.

Ezra Levant was really spouting off like a complete tool, and he got put down several times by Shahina and Mannon, both. The guy is your typical right-wing crackpot, good for a lotta laughs.

In fact I really came away admiring Mannon's principled stand against his stereotypical ignorance, she even knew enough to tell Ezra off big time, telling him not to dictate to women what to wear or not to wear, after he started spouting off about the niqab.

Watch it, its worth your time.

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Some people will do anything to fight hijab.
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Nonsense. I think people just don't like the idea of getting beaten up by a hijabi - my wife has worn hijab for almost 4yrs now and competed in regional and national taekwondo events here with no problem. In fact, she pretty much kicked major ass while wearing it... there are also plenty of up and comers here who wear hijab and are good.

Can't wait to see Beijing 2008 - I am sure there will be more than a few hijab's there - and representing all different countries!

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Nonsense. I think people just don't like the idea of getting beaten up by a hijabi - my wife has worn hijab for almost 4yrs now and competed in regional and national taekwondo events here with no problem. In fact, she pretty much kicked major ass while wearing it... there are also plenty of up and comers here who wear hijab and are good.

Can't wait to see Beijing 2008 - I am sure there will be more than a few hijab's there - and representing all different countries!

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Yes that should be an interesting sight to see. Dude, your wife is one interesting lady.
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That's why I flew all the way from the UK to Sydney to marry her!

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That's why I flew all the way from the UK to Sydney to marry her!

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No, we met over here when I was visiting and through a mutual friend.

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