[WickedSam]

It's still soo smokey and muggy in cali bc of those fires. Look, I don't think the muslims in socal are less religious than the muslims living in wyoming, where there was no fire.

Fire season is prevalent in that area. It's dry season. Infact, for a lot of those places, like malibu, this is the 2nd/3rd fire since summer started. Every few years the fire spreads to neighboring areas which causes all this chaos.

As far as faith goes, this is just a reminder that worldly possessions are nothing and can be burned away in minutes. Also, to make sure that your house and property is properly insured incase of a fire.

Wasalaamzzzz

[iceonfire]

yes that is tru but more importantly u gotta think why is a pickle on fire a pickle worth eatin. u gotta open u mind people and think outside of the box lol wat the hell am i sayin

[WickedSam]

There's pickles on fire??

You know, i bet those fires were caused by them damn cigarrettes. Aren't those things illegal in cali anyhow? lol

Wasalaamzzz

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by WickedSam

There's pickles on fire??

You know, i bet those fires were caused by them damn cigarrettes. Aren't those things illegal in cali anyhow? lol

Wasalaamzzz

The incidence of fires started by man have decreased in the last few years throughout the west. I bet it was started by lightning. Either that or some teenager tried to light their fart on fire...

[Skinwalker]

Originally Posted by LEGALEAGLE

Why not...you've already called me a Munaafiq

Also before some people go on about the punishment of Allah swt please note that a LOT of my cousins live in Cali...including one I
was chatting to just a few moments ago

I hope your cousins made it through the fires okay and that their houses are still standing.

[SaidAbdullahofDarfur]

This is exactly why I don't want my brothers and sisters coming to the west to learn their kfr values that anger ALLAH(SWT) so...

8:25 Beware of a retribution that may not be limited to the evildoers among you.* You should know that GOD's retribution is severe. -Khalifa-

And fear an affliction which may not smite those of you in particular who are unjust; and know that Allah is severe in requiting (evil). -Shakir-

And fear tumult or oppression, which affecteth not in particular (only) those of you who do wrong: and know that God is strict in punishment. -Yusuf Ali-

Waittaqoo fitnatan la tuseebanna allatheena thalamoo minkum khassatan waiAAlamoo anna Allaha shadeedu alAAiqabi

This verse is sooo relavnt to so many things...

[psychoteddybear]

ıdıots.......

[Skinwalker]

Originally Posted by psychoteddybear

ıdıots.......

I agree Psychoteddybear.

[Skinwalker]

Originally Posted by SaidAbdullahofDarfur

This is exactly why I don't want my brothers and sisters coming to the west to learn their kfr values that anger ALLAH(SWT) so...

8:25 Beware of a retribution that may not be limited to the evildoers among you.* You should know that GOD's retribution is severe. -Khalifa-

And fear an affliction which may not smite those of you in particular who are unjust; and know that Allah is severe in requiting (evil). -Shakir-

And fear tumult or oppression, which affecteth not in particular (only) those of you who do wrong: and know that God is strict in punishment. -Yusuf Ali-

Waittaqoo fitnatan la tuseebanna allatheena thalamoo minkum khassatan waiAAlamoo anna Allaha shadeedu alAAiqabi

This verse is sooo relavnt to so many things...

Gee Whizz. What kfr values were the people of Banda Acheh following?

[AmroodWaala]

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Question#:4636
Question Date:
1/1/1995
Topic :

Natural disasters: Are they punishment or "ghazab" ?

Question:
Can we say that frequent occurrences of natural disasters such as floods and cyclones are manifestations of Allah's anger with some people and He punishes them with these disasters? As it is understood from the Qur'an, when Allah chooses to inflict a collective punishment on some people, there is a definite purpose to be served by that punishment. Can we determine such a purpose in what happens these days? If not, can we still consider such disasters as the working of Allah's wrath, or "ghazab" ?

Answer:

Allah mentions in the Qur'an that He has caused a Pharaoh and his people to suffer a number of natural disasters, including floods and attacks by waves of locusts and other insects. He described those events as clear and detailed signs of His power, but the Pharaoh and his people continued to be arrogant and maintained their criminal practices. It is noteworthy that these events are described in the Qur'an as "clear and detailed signs." A sign is sent to a people in order to remind them of Allah's existence and power so that they may come to believe in Him. We cannot equate such a sign with what you have termed "ghazab" or collective punishment visited on some people. A sign is sent in order to make people respond positively. Therefore, the positive response is the one sought for. A collective punishment is bound to defeat that purpose, particularly if it leaves a community in total ruin. It is also mentioned in the Qur'an that Allah had destroyed complete nations with natural disasters or some other form of punishment because they arrogantly refused to follow the prophets and the messengers sent to them. The people of Noah, for example, were destroyed with the flood, while the people of Aad were destroyed by winds, and the people of Thamud by an earthquake accompanied by a heart piercing sound. The fact that Allah mentions these punishments to us serves as a reminder that He is able to inflict similar punishments on us if we defy His orders and continue to do so unrepentantly. We should always be in fear of Allah and try our best to please Him. Exerting such effort is certain to spare us the collective punishment.

Having said that, I should explain that volcanoes, cyclones, floods and other forms of natural disasters take place as a result of natural laws which Allah has set in operation. They may be caused when the fine balance Allah has set in the universe as a whole is upset. However, when a cyclone hits certain areas, we cannot say that the people of that area have earned such a punishment by Allah. How can we tell? After all, cyclones regularly hit parts of Bangladesh when the people there are certainly better than those who live in other parts of the world. Allah is the most just of judges. If He punishes some people, His punishment is just. It does not follow that those were the only people who deserved punishment. Allah may choose to delay the punishment of others until the Day of Judgment. No one who disobeys Allah may escape punishment, unless He chooses to forgive him or her. Therefore, we should always be in fear of incurring Allah's anger, lest His punishment takes us unawares.

The Prophet used to appeal to Allah for protection against natural disasters. For example, when the Prophet heard thunder or a thunderbolt, he used to say: "My Lord, do not kill us with Your wrath and do not send us to perdition by inflicting suffering on us. Spare us all that, our Lord." In short, we should always maintain a balance between realization that Allah controls all natural laws and He can easily inflict on us any type of punishment He may choose. His punishment is always just.

On the other hand, we do not feel happy to see any community smitten by a natural disaster, even though it is an unbelieving community. As Muslims, we would much better have that community respond to Allah's call than to see it smitten by His anger. What we should guard against is to appoint ourselves as judges of others, claiming that a particular community deserves punishment by Allah while another community has not reached that stage. Allah alone judges people in accordance with what He knows of their situation and their intentions.

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