[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by FMROMMEL

Do you have proof?~

Simple combustion. I think they cover that in High School chemistry.

Fires are a fact of life in the western states, just as tornadoes, huricaines, and 15 feet of winter snow are a fact of life in other parts of the country. I don't think you can compare the loss of a home (which loss is usually covered by insurance) with the loss felt by the people of New Orleans, or even bigger, the Asian Tsunami. Whole cities didn't get destroyed, thousands of people didn't lose their lives, people aren't displaced permanently. Furthermore, actual property wasn't destroyed, people still have their land, just not their homes. You can rebuild a house, you can't rebuild a life, or reclaim land taken by the ocean or a volcanic eruption. You will see, in just a year or two many of those homes will be rebuilt, and people will have normalized their lives again.

One thing, at least these people are only worried about simple air polution. About 7 years ago there was a very large wild fire on the Hanford reservation in Washington State. My house was just 45 miles from that, we could smell the smoke, and people were seriously worried about all the nice radiation exposure we would get from that fire. My friends dad worked on one of the fire crews for that fire, and they had to wear exposure badges.

[MuslimZ]

Originally Posted by farah

amazing! i didn't know you had the ability to see or judge a person's level of faith!

oh. oh wait...

word. end ze story.

[Shahnawaz]

Originally Posted by farah

amazing! i didn't know you had the ability to see or judge a person's level of faith!

oh. oh wait...

Amazing! I didn't know there were poeple sooo badly influeced by liberalism and PC that they would be prepared to overlook the obvious fact that America has chosen to fight the religion of Allah and its followers, and therefore under the threat of punishment from Allah.

Are you not aware of the fact that America has and is fighting Islam at this very moment. Are you also unaware that Cali happens to be a part of the same America? Is it not plausable for a MUslim to look at this as the Ghadhab of Allah, for it has devestated the area and its poeple?

I think you should attend the next Woodstock festival. You might find poeple equally deluded as you.

[Bluestar]

Originally Posted by Variable

I think the fires are caused by a combustion reaction involving a dry source of fuel and large quantities of oxygen.

you would

i think the fires were caused by devilish pixies who wanted to have a huge halloween party. All the other pixies were miserable because they had wanted it later on and one very drunk pixie who was on Johnsons Tree Sap all night decided to make it a party to remember.

This is why drink is so destructive. Inshallah we will all be able to learn lesson from this.

ps. For all you AskImams out there, as i'm a British Muslim, could i wage war on an American Muslim? I wish we could throw eggs on Islamica, i would throw eggs on all of you

pps./pss/etc a completely useless post for a completely useless thread

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by Shahnawaz

Amazing! I didn't know there were poeple sooo badly influeced by liberalism and PC that they would be prepared to overlook the obvious fact that America has chosen to fight the religion of Allah and its followers, and therefore under the threat of punishment from Allah.

Are you not aware of the fact that America has and is fighting Islam at this very moment. Are you also unaware that Cali happens to be a part of the same America? Is it not plausable for a MUslim to look at this as the Ghadhab of Allah, for it has devestated the area and its poeple?

I think you should attend the next Woodstock festival. You might find poeple equally deluded as you.

The problem, is that these sort of fires are a seasonal occurrence in that region, with only one person dying in this one thus far. The Ghadhab of Allah, is far more deadly and destructive, and where it hits, leaves virtually no survivors, and the examples you gave are evidence of that.

Also, the disaster of these fires for people isn't due so much to the fact that they started, but rather that the fire prevention measures intended to control such fires were cut to pay for the war, just as the New Orleans levees were left unrepaired.

[Shahnawaz]

Ghadab of Allah can come in a number of ways. It can devestate lives by destroying livlihood, or by displacing people, or by the loss of life.
Just because they happen on a yearly basis does not take away the fact that they hold the potential to become a source of great anguish for a poeple. Whenever a regular natural occurance shifts from harmless to harmful to either life or property, then "it is Punishment for the disbleivers and a trial for the beleivers", as pointed out by Umm al-Mu'mineen Aysha.

There is no room for your rationalisation when there is explicit text concerning an issue.
So your point about it not being on the level of the punishment meated out on 'Aad and Thamud, is irrelevent. Because it is Allah who chooses how badly it will affect the the people.

[MossadConspiracy]

friction from gay anal sex created sparks that landed on dry marijuana plants and piles of old porn magazines, igniting small fires that angels blew on until they spread to nearby barrels of stolen Iraqi oil and became out of control blazes

[LEGALEAGLE]

Originally Posted by Bluestar

ps. For all you AskImams out there, as i'm a British Muslim, could i wage war on an American Muslim?

Why not...you've already called me a Munaafiq

Also before some people go on about the punishment of Allah swt please note that a LOT of my cousins live in Cali...including one I
was chatting to just a few moments ago

[MossadConspiracy]

must be wierd when the shoe's on the other foot

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by LEGALEAGLE

Also before some people go on about the punishment of Allah swt please note that a LOT of my cousins live in Cali...including one I
was chatting to just a few moments ago

do you really think that matters to these people? After all, "Shaykh Usama" did warn Muslims to leave America and the UK

[Bluestar]

Originally Posted by LEGALEAGLE

Why not...you've already called me a Munaafiq

I have no sympathy for the likes of you. I pointed out what was blatantly obvious in that thread. If i had eggs, you would be my primary aim

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by Bluestar

If i had eggs, you would be my primary aim

you should go to a fertility specialist, you might have a few left that can be salvaged

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by Shahnawaz

Ghadab of Allah can come in a number of ways. It can devestate lives by destroying livlihood, or by displacing people, or by the loss of life.
Just because they happen on a yearly basis does not take away the fact that they hold the potential to become a source of great anguish for a poeple. Whenever a regular natural occurance shifts from harmless to harmful to either life or property, then "it is Punishment for the disbleivers and a trial for the beleivers", as pointed out by Umm al-Mu'mineen Aysha.

But how does that make it the sole purpose of its occurrence? If it's part of the ecosystem, then that means it serves other purposes, and is going to happen, regardless of whether it affects people or not. Therefore, it isn't the natural event itself, but the fact that people are negatively affected by it, which is the punishment/trial.

There is no room for your rationalisation when there is explicit text concerning an issue.
So your point about it not being on the level of the punishment meated out on 'Aad and Thamud, is irrelevent. Because it is Allah who chooses how badly it will affect the the people.

If you have "explicit text" in the ayat from the Qur'an or ahadith, which demonstrate that the sole purpose for natural disasters to happen when people are involved is either to try or punish them, then please quote it.

[Bluestar]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

you should go to a fertility specialist, you might have a few left that can be salvaged

you're not intelligent enough to worry about the fertility of my eggs. Try again next year when you're able to reach my knee in height.