Sunnis kill Shias yet again

[Rambo]

30 shia people killed in karachi, 15 in Pak kashmir

Suicide Bomber Hits Pakistani Shi'ites in Karachi, Killing 30 | Asia | English


Sunni/Shia violence is really one sided. If i was Shia i would be so pissed of at Sunni extremists, i dont know how shias are able to control themselves after so much pointless violence against them all the time by sunni extremists.

[Rambo]

the blast was caught live:

YouTube- Exclusive CCTV Footage Of Blast In Karachi On Ashoora Markazi Juloos

YouTube- Exclusive CCTV Footage Of Blast In Karachi On Ashoora Markazi Juloos

why no sunni imams condemn this? atleast of say some thing for crying outloud.

[IrishMuslimah]

ANY extremism pisses me off.

My dad made a really good point last night. He said that in order for the world to stop shuddering and thinking of terrorism everytime they hear the word "Islam" we need some Muslims to get loud and start fighting back. Nobody seems to be fighting back. Moderate Muslims, as a whole (in my opinion) seem to be pretty passive and private people. At least I know me and my husband are... but dang it would be so nice if I turned the news on and saw a Muslim man or woman finally saying "enough" to extremism and trying to do something to stop it. Even if its just a simple protest by a huge group of Muslims in San Fran or something. I just find it sad that Islamic extremists have control of quite a few countries in the Middle East, and the one with nukes is now a big target for terrorists. Can you imagine a nutjob with a nuke!? Thats something I never ever want happening. Im extremely disappointed in how far Islamic extremism has gone. And im even more disappointed at how little it seems is being done by moderates to try to speak up and say its wrong.

If 1/5th of the world is Muslim and only 1% of that group is a terrorist, thats still an enormous number of people. Thats extremely disappointing and scary to me.

[Jamroll]

IrishMuslimah said

ANY extremism pisses me off.

My dad made a really good point last night. He said that in order for the world to stop shuddering and thinking of terrorism everytime they hear the word "Islam" we need some Muslims to get loud and start fighting back. Nobody seems to be fighting back. Moderate Muslims, as a whole (in my opinion) seem to be pretty passive and private people. At least I know me and my husband are... but dang it would be so nice if I turned the news on and saw a Muslim man or woman finally saying "enough" to extremism and trying to do something to stop it. Even if its just a simple protest by a huge group of Muslims in San Fran or something. I just find it sad that Islamic extremists have control of quite a few countries in the Middle East, and the one with nukes is now a big target for terrorists. Can you imagine a nutjob with a nuke!? Thats something I never ever want happening. Im extremely disappointed in how far Islamic extremism has gone. And im even more disappointed at how little it seems is being done by moderates to try to speak up and say its wrong.

If 1/5th of the world is Muslim and only 1% of that group is a terrorist, thats still an enormous number of people. Thats extremely disappointing and scary to me.

Irish, plenty of people protest/speak out/campaign against extremists, but they rarely publicise it. It doesn't make good headlines unfortunately. In order to keep our armies in the Muslim world our media has to show these people are all crazy and savage.

[rehaan]

IrishMuslimah said

If 1/5th of the world is Muslim and only 1% of that group is a terrorist, thats still an enormous number of people. Thats extremely disappointing and scary to me.

More like 0.01%. And as Jamroll said, there are a lot of Muslims speaking out against extremism. You just don't hear about it.

[Wolfn]

rehaan said

More like 0.01%. And as Jamroll said, there are a lot of Muslims speaking out against extremism. You just don't hear about it.

Correct. CAIR denounces terrorism 24/7, but Faux News, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh and other Republicans label CAIR a terrorist sympathizer.

[Badshah]

Wolfn said

Correct. CAIR denounces terrorism 24/7, but Faux News, Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh and other Republicans label CAIR a terrorist sympathizer.

Honestly bro, you shouldn't denounce it just because right-wing demagogues demand it; you should denounce it because it is strictly against Islamic teachings.

[Variable]

IrishMuslimah said

ANY extremism pisses me off.

My dad made a really good point last night. He said that in order for the world to stop shuddering and thinking of terrorism everytime they hear the word "Islam" we need some Muslims to get loud and start fighting back. Nobody seems to be fighting back. Moderate Muslims, as a whole (in my opinion) seem to be pretty passive and private people. At least I know me and my husband are... but dang it would be so nice if I turned the news on and saw a Muslim man or woman finally saying "enough" to extremism and trying to do something to stop it. Even if its just a simple protest by a huge group of Muslims in San Fran or something. I just find it sad that Islamic extremists have control of quite a few countries in the Middle East, and the one with nukes is now a big target for terrorists. Can you imagine a nutjob with a nuke!? Thats something I never ever want happening. Im extremely disappointed in how far Islamic extremism has gone. And im even more disappointed at how little it seems is being done by moderates to try to speak up and say its wrong.

If 1/5th of the world is Muslim and only 1% of that group is a terrorist, thats still an enormous number of people. Thats extremely disappointing and scary to me.

I think that non-Muslims and Muslims just need to hang out more together. It'd put a lot of preconceptions to rest.

[ChotooMotoo]

Badshah said

Honestly bro, you shouldn't denounce it just because right-wing demagogues demand it; you should denounce it because it is strictly against Islamic teachings.

ummm... that's kind of why CAIR denounces it. Just FYI.

[Badshah]

ChotooMotoo said

ummm... that's kind of why CAIR denounces it. Just FYI.

I wasn't speaking about CAIR or any of the organizations. It was just a general statement I was making.

On another note, I bet Hard2Hit will claim India did it, while turning a blind eye to the number of extremists the country continues to produce.

[Hard2Hit]

Hey Badshah, dude. Why do you only highlight and memorize just a portion of what I say, and then keep chanting it ?

In many... MANY posts I've tried to be as honest as I can and approached the current Pak-Indo-Afghan-US situation from many tangents. India is one player. takfiris (muslims) are another big factor, the brainwashed youth who are now adult, the mozzart sold out mullah of the madrassah in remote forgotten areas are among few other factors. The mozzart mullahs, the teachers of brainwashed takfiri youth (now 'exploding' adults), are paid in millions every year by BW, XE and others to destablize the region.

Delibrate and False interpretition of Religion is also a big factor, which isn't a fault of religion per se, but a fault of its followers.

That said, I wouldn't bother quoting myself here again. I dont have a duty to 'make' you understand my point of view, when you dont really want to.

Bye!

[JiveTurkey]

Badshah would you mind if I asked you about your ethnic background. You seem to be very passionate about a couple viewpoints which you love to constantly bring up, namely:

1. Extreme oppression of non-Muslims in Muslim countries. The oppression is so great it's almost unbearable. You also like to highlight oppression of Shias by Sunnis but not so much the other way around.

2. How Pakistanis have wet their own bed by promoting extremism and are thus getting everything they deserve. If you blame anyone else for Pakistan's problems you're a CT moron

3. You seem to really throw a hissy fit about Rambo's "inferiority complex" every time he talks about white girls. His threads seem to really get to you.

4. Iran's family planning is a model for other Muslim nations

5. You dislike Islamophobia from Westerners and Arab Christians, but also detest any Muslims promoting Shariah

I'm just curious because for a non-Muslim you seem to be overtly passionate regarding these issues, so much so that I'm having a hard time believing you're an everyday WASP American. You seem to have a bigger incentive in promoting these ideas.

[roberto]

Jamroll said

Irish, plenty of people protest/speak out/campaign against extremists, but they rarely publicise it. It doesn't make good headlines unfortunately. In order to keep our armies in the Muslim world our media has to show these people are all crazy and savage.

Idiot

rehaan said

More like 0.01%. And as Jamroll said, there are a lot of Muslims speaking out against extremism. You just don't hear about it.

There's a lot more who don't

[Jamroll]

roberto said

Idiot

Well, that brought a lot to the discussion. Give yourself a pat on the back. Moron.

[Badshah]

JiveTurkey said

Badshah would you mind if I asked you about your ethnic background. You seem to be very passionate about a couple viewpoints which you love to constantly bring up, namely:

Don't mind at all JT

1. Extreme oppression of non-Muslims in Muslim countries. The oppression is so great it's almost unbearable. You also like to highlight oppression of Shias by Sunnis but not so much the other way around.

Actually, I did also discussed it with Biryani about the oppression of Sunnis in Iran and how they are still unable to build a mosque according to them.

And yes, there is persecution of non-Muslims in most Muslim countries, are you denying that?

2. How Pakistanis have wet their own bed by promoting extremism and are thus getting everything they deserve. If you blame anyone else for Pakistan's problems you're a CT moron

As opposed to what? Them being angels? Sorry but the truth hurts. A lot of Pakistanis also blame India for the breakup of their country in 1971, while ignoring that their racism against Bengalis was majority to blame for it.

It is not limited to the country's small segment of the population. Even the "liberal" elite of Pakistan constantly blames India and others while ignoring their own follies.

And if you're in denial about Pakistan's problems, then take a look at this article: Pakistan's religious minorities report violence | My Sinchew

It explains how the country is ranked 7th in the ranking of the most dangerous countries for minorities. Like it or not, Pakistan has a lot of problems that is not derived from the West.

3. You seem to really throw a hissy fit about Rambo's "inferiority complex" every time he talks about white girls. His threads seem to really get to you.

He's an annoying little punk, and his stupidity really does get to me because I don't know how anyone can be as dumb as him.

4. Iran's family planning is a model for other Muslim nations

As opposed to promoting China's family planning policy, which is draconian? Iran's policy has been highly lauded by many NGO's, I don't see what's wrong with that?

5. You dislike Islamophobia from Westerners and Arab Christians, but also detest any Muslims promoting Shariah

True, I do detest Islamophobia, but as for the latter, let me elaborate. I do not have a problem with Shariah (because I believe it is not monolithic to begin with), but I do have a problem with a certain minority of Muslims who want to emulate the barbarity of the Taliban and spread it to other countries. I also have a problem with those who want to impose that throughout Western countries, such as RevolutionMuslim or Al-Muhajiroun, whose actions in turn spread more propaganda for the Islamophobes to demonize normal Muslims.

I'm just curious because for a non-Muslim you seem to be overtly passionate regarding these issues, so much so that I'm having a hard time believing you're an everyday WASP American. You seem to have a bigger incentive in promoting these ideas.

I'm Greek/Anglo, JiveTurkey. I was raised here and I was pretty Islamophobic until I befriended some Muslims and realized that they are people and they are mostly interested in living a good life and not one of death and destruction.

Hope that answers your questions.