[kellyjaz]

Assalamu 3alaikum wrwb.
The importance of manners in threads.

Recently i made a thread which i deleted due to the members shocking attitude towards me personally, so much for the 70 excuse hadith.

I know this is an online website and people tend to say whatever comes to their mind without thinking whether its correct a) as a muslim to have such an attitude b) for the unknown readers out there

I'm not attacking anyone in particular, but i just find it extremely rude to have people be so bloody rude in threads when someone is genuinely interested in a particular topic especially when it is in regards to islam. So inshAllah this thread will act as a reminder to certain individuals. Please apply your manners online.

I know certain members here are very blunt, and of course this can be a beautiful characteristic in a person, since usually blunt people tend to be rather honest. But being blunt is one thing ( that i usually have no problem with) but attacking someone personally and persisting in doing so is not something that the prophet saaw allowed nor is it something that people should feel comfortable doing behind a computer.


Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners #271, Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Ahmad, and Ibn Hibban.

...Abu Darda' reported that the Prophet of Allah, upon him be peace, said, "Nothing is weightier on the Scale of Deeds than one's good manners."

Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners #286 and Ahmad

Abu Huraira, r.a., said, "I heard Abu al Qasim (the Prophet saaws), say, "The best among you in Islam are those with the best manners, so long as they develop a sense of understanding."

Hadith - At-Tabaraanee collected it, and Albani authenticated it in Silsilatul-AHaadeethis-Saheehah (#432).

The Prophet (saaws) said: "The most beloved of Allah's servants to Allah are those with the best manners."

Hadith - Sahih Bukhari, Muslim, and Tirmidhi

... 'Abd Allah ibn 'Amr said, "The Prophet of Allah, upon him be peace, was never obscene or coarse. Rather, he used to tell us that the best among us were those with the best manners."

Hadith - Sahih Bukhari, Muslim and Ahmad

... Anas said, "I served the Prophet of Allah, upon him be peace, for ten years. During that time, he never once said to me as much as 'Oof' if I did something wrong. He never asked me, if I had failed to do something, 'Why did you not do it?,' and he never said to me, if I had done something wrong, 'Why did you do it?' "

Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners # 285, Hakim, and Abu Dawud

... Abu Huraira, r.a., said that the Prophet of Allah, saaws, said, "If one has good manners, one may attain the same level of merit as those who spend their nights in prayer."

Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners # 290, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, and Ahmad

... Abu Hurairah reported that the Prophet of Allah (saaws) said, "And what is most likely to send people to Paradise? Being conscious of Allah and good manners."

Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners #313, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and Hakim

... 'Abd Allah reported that the Prophet of Allah, upon him be peace, said, "A believer is not a fault-finder and is not abusive, obscene, or course."

Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners #329

... Ibn 'Abbas said, "If you wish to mention the faults of your friend, mention your own faults first."

Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners #330

... Ibn 'Abbas said on the following verse of the Qur'an, "Nor defame one another" (49:11), "Do not spend your time finding fault with one another."

[LEGALEAGLE]

Originally Posted by kellyjaz

The importance of manners in threads.

Recently i made a thread which i deleted due to the members shocking attitude towards me personally, so much for the 70 excuse hadith.

I know this is an online website and people tend to say whatever comes to their mind without thinking whether its correct a) as a muslim to have such an attitude b) for the unknown readers out there

I'm not attacking anyone in particular, but i just find it extremely rude to have people be so bloody rude in threads when someone is genuinely interested in a particular topic especially when it is in regards to islam. So inshAllah this thread will act as a reminder to certain individuals. Please apply your manners online.

I know certain members here are very blunt, and of course this can be a beautiful characteristic in a person, since usually blunt people tend to be rather honest. But being blunt is one thing ( that i usually have no problem with) but attacking someone personally and persisting in doing so is not something that the prophet saaw allowed nor is it something that people should feel comfortable doing behind a computer.

Did they attack you for posting the article ? your comments ?

I think attacking you personally for it was rather unfair.

[poga]

People attack when they think the post is no good
But people attack even more if they know the post was very good
And last group are more common

[wheelworks]

Islamicans in general tend to have bad adab. I created a thread when I first joined but it just turned out blah

[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by poga

But people attack even more if they know the post was very good
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is that why you keep posting all that crappy nonsensical jibber jabber? (I refuse to call them poetry)

[Rokaiya]

Salaams Sis,
A great thread
I agree with u sis some here are just soooo rude !
Having good manners is everything !

[dreamdeferred]

Damn what'd I miss? Was your original thread "controversial"? LOL

Masha'Allah......nice sentiment sister. Adaab is an important expression of faith.

Peace,

[thejellymill]

Thank you for pointing this out kellyjaz, it's very true. Too many people on here use sarcasm, catty remarks and even outright insults to degrade others and I personally feel, like you, that I've been a victim of this on at least two occasions. People think it's fun to act superior but that's behind the comfort of their computer screen....I bet the cowards wouldn't say half these things if we were face to face.

Anyway. It's best just to ignore them... I have begun using my 'ignore list' option. It works wonders when it comes to "cleaning up the trash"

[kellyjaz]

Sometimes when a person is being for example racist you feel almost compelled to call them a idiot, but in cases where someone is trying to learn about Islam through the means available, then it becomes unfair to attack that individual especially when the thread was not started out of spite but rather in order to gain more insight. If the information in the thread was wrong, then people easily could just say X is wrong because of Y or go to X source to get X information so that you may understand.

we are not 10 year olds, we should be able to have a discussion on a topic even if its sensitive or controversial. I'm not asking anyone to respect a certain view but rather be tolerant and be able to express their views without resorting to slandering and attacking a person.

Its a shame that usually its the people whom actually have a decent amount of knowledge in Islam...and uh i'm glad that 3 or 4 people share the same view as me.

btw, I wasnt aware of a ignore option how does that work?

[Timbit]

Good reminder. Honestly, a lot of us forget our adab on teh interwebs.

[Deel]

jazaki alf khair for posting, it's a reminder for all of us

[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by kellyjaz

btw, I wasnt aware of a ignore option how does that work?

Left click on 'my islamica' and then scroll down to the 'miscellaneous' section on the left column. Then click on 'buddy/ignore lists'.

[thejellymill]

Originally Posted by kellyjaz

btw, I wasnt aware of a ignore option how does that work?

Originally Posted by wheelworks

Left click on 'my islamica' and then scroll down to the 'miscellaneous' section on the left column. Then click on 'buddy/ignore lists'.

Yea, what he said..

[Sha_]

'But I know so and so in real life and they're alright'..... WTH. Well that makes it okay then.

[CaptainHairyNeck]

did you mean me? I don't mean to be rude, and I do try to respect others privacy and opinions. Sometimes I can get outta hand...