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Easter chocolate
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Ali (radiallahu anhu) said: "Beware of having long term expectations (for the world), for it makes one forget (his true purpose)."
This is a great reminder, but how does one follow this advice without neglecting his worldly future?
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My iman is lower than ever after going on a jamaat this weekend. Some scholar visited, and he had us reciet shahada, and I couldn't pronounce the first part correctly (I thought I was all this time), to which he said "do you even know what it translates to"
Then the leader of our jamaat was talking, and then he randomly pointed to me and asked if I knew what some Arabic word meant, and I didn't know, to which he said "look at our youth. They don't know anything". And he kept doing this all weekend long.
Then on the ride back, and someone said that one of Allah's (SWT) Days was like millions years in our time, so I inquired as to whether the Big Bang theory was possible because it says that earth was created in 6 days, so that would be billions of years in our time, which would make sense, and they were like "don't be ridiculous" and "only non-believers would say something like that, and you sound to me like a non-believer" and stuff like that.
And I'm really upset because I purposely failed a ten page test and an 8 page research paper so I could go on this jamaat, and I got nothing productive out of it. In fact, my iman is lower than ever now.
But yeah, I'm not sure if I'll go on another jamaat and I'm seriously thinking about not going to Jummah this Friday.
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My iman is lower than ever after going on a jamaat this weekend. Some scholar visited, and he had us reciet shahada, and I couldn't pronounce the first part correctly (I thought I was all this time), to which he said "do you even know what it translates to"
Then the leader of our jamaat was talking, and then he randomly pointed to me and asked if I knew what some Arabic word meant, and I didn't know, to which he said "look at our youth. They don't know anything". And he kept doing this all weekend long.
Then on the ride back, and someone said that one of Allah's (SWT) Days was like millions years in our time, so I inquired as to whether the Big Bang theory was possible because it says that earth was created in 6 days, so that would be billions of years in our time, which would make sense, and they were like "don't be ridiculous" and "only non-believers would say something like that, and you sound to me like a non-believer" and stuff like that.
And I'm really upset because I purposely failed a ten page test and an 8 page research paper so I could go on this jamaat, and I got nothing productive out of it. In fact, my iman is lower than ever now.
But yeah, I'm not sure if I'll go on another jamaat and I'm seriously thinking about not going to Jummah this Friday.
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So basically he just picked on you?!  Maybe you should've told him that you are still learning...........And your Iman shouldn't be low because of what anyone says, keep faith in Allah (swt). Inshallah, your days will look brighter
Or maybe you could use your super ninja skills and ninjafy him
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My iman is lower than ever after going on a jamaat this weekend. Some scholar visited, and he had us reciet shahada, and I couldn't pronounce the first part correctly (I thought I was all this time), to which he said "do you even know what it translates to"
Then the leader of our jamaat was talking, and then he randomly pointed to me and asked if I knew what some Arabic word meant, and I didn't know, to which he said "look at our youth. They don't know anything". And he kept doing this all weekend long.
Then on the ride back, and someone said that one of Allah's (SWT) Days was like millions years in our time, so I inquired as to whether the Big Bang theory was possible because it says that earth was created in 6 days, so that would be billions of years in our time, which would make sense, and they were like "don't be ridiculous" and "only non-believers would say something like that, and you sound to me like a non-believer" and stuff like that.
And I'm really upset because I purposely failed a ten page test and an 8 page research paper so I could go on this jamaat, and I got nothing productive out of it. In fact, my iman is lower than ever now.
But yeah, I'm not sure if I'll go on another jamaat and I'm seriously thinking about not going to Jummah this Friday.
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I've been with some good jamaat's, but I'll be honest with you, in general I avoid them because I feel they are a little close minded and sometimes harsh. In your case, they seemed to be very close minded.
It's sad that you had to have that experience, it's understandable that it can be very disheartening and can hurt. The best thing you can do is do du'a for those who have hurt you and said wrong things to you, that Allah forgive their faults, and then you will have the advantage over them since you spoke well of them to Allah while they spoke badly of you.
Some jamaats are also too entrenched in Indo-Pak mentalities, and are insensitive to the reality of Muslims around them. Believe me bro, if you are sincere in seeking truth and trying to be a good person, then don't worry about when others knitpick about you.
You made a big sacrifice to go on a journey for the sake of Allah which you thought would be beneficial and uplifting, but it turned out to be a sour experience. Expect that Allah's reward for what you did will be immense, and because you feel you didn't get anything out of it in this life, expect something great in the next for journeying for Allah's sake. Don't let Shaytan continue to make you feel as if you were at fault and as if you are deficient, and don't let him take you away from the ibadah that brings you closer to Allah.
Just like the earth travels around the sun creating seasons, we also have seasons with our imaan. And just like there is night and day, there is night and day with our imaan. All those moments that you felt close to Allah will come again, it is also a test from Allah that we feel far from Him at times because He then tests us whether or not we were worshiping Him for His sake or just for the good feeling of it. Keep seeking closeness to Allah and striving, I promise you that your imaan will bounce back and you will put such experiences behind you  .
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Don't let others high expectations bring you down. We all face a jihad within ourselves to keep our faith and seek knowledge soely for the sake of Allah. Did you go there to impress the people of the jamaat or did you go there to benefit from their knowledge?! If for the latter, than just say Alhamdulilah. You intentions were good and inshaAllah you'll be rewarded for it. That leader shouldn't have been leading the jamaat if he is how you he is. The best scholars and leaders wouldn't do that, it's childish. And I think there's a hadith about not embarassing your Muslim brothers/sisters. Especially the ones who are "new Muslims". We're suppose to teach them, encourage them and correct them. Not make fun. Anyways, inshaAllah khair.

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I just watched an hour worth of Pink Panther the cartoon episodes!! 
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My iman is lower than ever after going on a jamaat this weekend. Some scholar visited, and he had us reciet shahada, and I couldn't pronounce the first part correctly (I thought I was all this time), to which he said "do you even know what it translates to"
Then the leader of our jamaat was talking, and then he randomly pointed to me and asked if I knew what some Arabic word meant, and I didn't know, to which he said "look at our youth. They don't know anything". And he kept doing this all weekend long.
Then on the ride back, and someone said that one of Allah's (SWT) Days was like millions years in our time, so I inquired as to whether the Big Bang theory was possible because it says that earth was created in 6 days, so that would be billions of years in our time, which would make sense, and they were like "don't be ridiculous" and "only non-believers would say something like that, and you sound to me like a non-believer" and stuff like that.
And I'm really upset because I purposely failed a ten page test and an 8 page research paper so I could go on this jamaat, and I got nothing productive out of it. In fact, my iman is lower than ever now.
But yeah, I'm not sure if I'll go on another jamaat and I'm seriously thinking about not going to Jummah this Friday.
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Screw them.
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My iman is lower than ever after going on a jamaat this weekend. Some scholar visited, and he had us reciet shahada, and I couldn't pronounce the first part correctly (I thought I was all this time), to which he said "do you even know what it translates to"
Then the leader of our jamaat was talking, and then he randomly pointed to me and asked if I knew what some Arabic word meant, and I didn't know, to which he said "look at our youth. They don't know anything". And he kept doing this all weekend long.
Then on the ride back, and someone said that one of Allah's (SWT) Days was like millions years in our time, so I inquired as to whether the Big Bang theory was possible because it says that earth was created in 6 days, so that would be billions of years in our time, which would make sense, and they were like "don't be ridiculous" and "only non-believers would say something like that, and you sound to me like a non-believer" and stuff like that.
And I'm really upset because I purposely failed a ten page test and an 8 page research paper so I could go on this jamaat, and I got nothing productive out of it. In fact, my iman is lower than ever now.
But yeah, I'm not sure if I'll go on another jamaat and I'm seriously thinking about not going to Jummah this Friday.
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I feel for you bro, I really do. I'm not sure who exactly is on this jamaat with you, but they really haven't displayed the proper adab (etiquette) in giving someone naseeha (sincere advice).
first of all, the best way to rectifiy someone's errors is to do so privately to avoid embarassment or to discuss it in general terms without singling anyone out. this obviously did not happen here. second, you didn't really even make a mistake, as you can be expected to have a less than complete knowledge of islam (who does really?). I don't even see how they can fault you for ignorance as gaining knowledge is the whole reason you're on the jamaat. and implying that you are a non-believer or have such a mentality is beyond belief. this sounds like a less than ideal group to be around. are there any other sincere muslims near you who you can latch on to?
and the most important point, one that takes some time to accept, is to not tie your iman to the actions of others. It's only going to lead to disaster. Islam has an ideal, and the brothers and sisters around you are less than perfect realizations of that ideal.
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Gah I haven't biked for four days. Life sucks sometimes 
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Metaphysically, the world's simple and idealist.
Politically, what's "right" by trail and error--utter madness. Immorality that makes sense! immoral rulers and governments that bring the space and luxury for morality in their nation to the cost of others to appease the "nature" of humankind. It's all in a odd flux.
I have been reading Machiavelli intensively and writing and discussing Nationalism, Israel, Palestine... and it's crazy how it all goes hand in hand. My brain is turning. I never thought either I would be learning so much from horrid papers which makes me love them.
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My iman is lower than ever after going on a jamaat this weekend. Some scholar visited, and he had us reciet shahada, and I couldn't pronounce the first part correctly (I thought I was all this time), to which he said "do you even know what it translates to"
Then the leader of our jamaat was talking, and then he randomly pointed to me and asked if I knew what some Arabic word meant, and I didn't know, to which he said "look at our youth. They don't know anything". And he kept doing this all weekend long.
Then on the ride back, and someone said that one of Allah's (SWT) Days was like millions years in our time, so I inquired as to whether the Big Bang theory was possible because it says that earth was created in 6 days, so that would be billions of years in our time, which would make sense, and they were like "don't be ridiculous" and "only non-believers would say something like that, and you sound to me like a non-believer" and stuff like that.
And I'm really upset because I purposely failed a ten page test and an 8 page research paper so I could go on this jamaat, and I got nothing productive out of it. In fact, my iman is lower than ever now.
But yeah, I'm not sure if I'll go on another jamaat and I'm seriously thinking about not going to Jummah this Friday.
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awwwww. poor thing.
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