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06-09-2008, 02:55 PM
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Converting for the sake of love
Asalaamwalaikum,
Would you marry someone who is willing to convert for the sake of love? They may believe in Allah, but not fully until they meet a Muslim who showed them the Straight Path. However they love someone enough to change their religious views in a genuine way? Or perhaps a Muslim that wasnt religious, but wants to become more religious for their spouse? Just curious as to what peoples thoughts are on this.
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06-09-2008, 03:00 PM
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Re: Converting for the sake of love
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Asalaamwalaikum,
Would you marry someone who is willing to convert for the sake of love? They may believe in Allah, but not fully until they meet a Muslim who showed them the Straight Path. However they love someone enough to change their religious views in a genuine way? Or perhaps a Muslim that wasnt religious, but wants to become more religious for their spouse? Just curious as to what peoples thoughts are on this.
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I don't think it matters. To me a convert is a convert. Some converts are better able to practice their faith than others, no matter how they converted. I've seen Muslims who converted just reading books struggle with their faith just as bad as someone who married, and converted "for love."
It's a really difficult thing to change ones religion. Allah (swt) guides whom he will, and if he guides someone to Islam through the love of another person, I don't see how it's somehow less than being guided by books or friends. If they are sincere, or even if they aren't in the begining but later become sincere, I don't think their faith is less than someone who converted on their own.
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Re: Converting for the sake of love
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Asalaamwalaikum,
Would you marry someone who is willing to convert for the sake of love? They may believe in Allah, but not fully until they meet a Muslim who showed them the Straight Path. However they love someone enough to change their religious views in a genuine way? Or perhaps a Muslim that wasnt religious, but wants to become more religious for their spouse? Just curious as to what peoples thoughts are on this.
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Interesting question, if a muslim only changed solely because of me(or to please me), I wouldn't marry her. Additionally, I probably wouldn't marry someone who is willing to change religions just to marry me. Because I have no idea if they are truly being sincere in their faith or if it is just for me. Inshallah, I'd look for someone who already has a strong base or has already been actively engaged in the process of becoming a better muslim.
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Re: Converting for the sake of love
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Asalaamwalaikum,
Would you marry someone who is willing to convert for the sake of love? They may believe in Allah, but not fully until they meet a Muslim who showed them the Straight Path. However they love someone enough to change their religious views in a genuine way? Or perhaps a Muslim that wasnt religious, but wants to become more religious for their spouse? Just curious as to what peoples thoughts are on this.
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Their intentions may be clouded.
Another person can surely inspire one to seek the straight path, or to better themselves spiritually; but to say that the love you have for another caused them to become more religious sounds a little questionable.
(eg: i love you so much I'm going to pray now)
This is not to say a spouse cannot bring one closer to God. The love you have for them can stem from your love for God; and loving one who has a love for God will likely serve an edifying purpose. But to say that you "want to become more religious for their spouse opens a can of worms
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06-09-2008, 07:43 PM
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Re: Converting for the sake of love
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Would you marry someone who is willing to convert for the sake of love?
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For the love of Allah? Yes, definitely, yes.
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I'm wating for you Johnny  
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For the love of Allah? Yes, definitely, yes.
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Ditto. Expecting someone to convert just because they love you is asking for a disaster, IMHO (and experience). Unless the person already had compatible beliefs, or has a strong, sincere interest in religion and faith interests, it's not going to work. 
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Re: Converting for the sake of love
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Asalaamwalaikum,
Would you marry someone who is willing to convert for the sake of love? They may believe in Allah, but not fully until they meet a Muslim who showed them the Straight Path. However they love someone enough to change their religious views in a genuine way? Or perhaps a Muslim that wasnt religious, but wants to become more religious for their spouse? Just curious as to what peoples thoughts are on this.
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walaikum assalam,
well ideally they would convert solely because they know islam is the right way. but even if they say the kalima, and die after that. its better than not having uttered the kalima at all. "ikrar bilisaan tasdeeq bil qalb" - proclaim with the tongue, believe in the heart. so saying it would at least be one of the two.
that initial proclamation for the sake of love may develop into true faith.
EDIT - in terms of marriage, id have to make sure she knew what she was doing and that she showed signs that she was actually converting for the sake of Allah.
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Re: Converting for the sake of love
What was it, the biggest group of converts leaving Islam were wives who converted to marry their Muslim husbands, and the next biggest group was their kids.
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