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A fantastic article. Goes on to cite the most common reasons for divorce that these imams have seen and potential solutions.
May Allah swt preserve us all from having to go through such a painful situation, and allow us to marry spouses with whom we can bring about the best in each other, ameen Quote:
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Thats crazy. Yet i can understand why the divorce rate is higher here. Less cultural pressures and such.
Greta article farah
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You know the absolute worst part about this topic............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .......we will likely have to put up with another Kona Silat post
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Wow, it says "The reason for divorce #1: In-laws"
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The reason for divorce #1: In-laws
"Parents and other family members do not allow the young couple to develop their relationship organically and independently of the family," explained Azam Nizamuddin, a Chicago-based attorney who specializes in family law, among other fields. Apart from general interference in the couple's life, there are a few specific problems in this regard that lead to divorce amongst Muslims. Foremost among these is conflict between mother-in-laws and daughter-in-laws. In some cultures, particularly South Asian, according to Kavakci and Arroyo, a wife may be expected to live with her in-laws after marriage for economic and/or emotional reasons. This often leads to serious clashes. "Men have to be sensitive to the fact that their mothers will not necessarily treat their wives well," Arroyo said. "And they have to be willing to stand up against it." Kavakci was more forthcoming with his criticism. "The husbands are chicken," he said and unable to protect their own nuclear family unit for fear of their mother's displeasure. In his experience, a mother-in-law's jealousy towards the daughter-in-law's closeness to her son often causes problems in these scenarios and has led to divorce. Arroyo explained that when a husband does not defend his wife in situations where she is abused, belittled or mistreated by his mother, that leads to distrust in the marital relationship, paving the way to more serious problems and possibly divorce. In a setup where the wife lives with her in-laws, control of the household, privacy and cultural expectations are three of the biggest sources of tension. "When a young man brings his wife to the household, he needs to consider: does she have her own room, her own space, can she be in a place where does not have to wear Hijab, for example, or does she always have to wear Hijab because of other people being in the house?" said Imam Magid. He added that in some cases, a wife cannot even cook her own meals "because the kitchen is the domain of the lady of the house, which is her mother-in-law". He added that cultural rules and expectations may also negatively affect how a daughter-in-law is treated, especially if she was born and/or raised in North America and her parents-in-laws come from abroad. Some of these include entertaining guests even if they are not her or her husband's and serving her in-laws to the detriment of her marriage. "She does not feel she is given enough time to bond with her husband, she has to cater to more than one person," explained Imam Magid. He also noted that displays of affection between the married couple may also cause tension when in-laws share a household. "Can they hold hands in front of their in-laws? Can they sit close? One of the problems is that parents feel it is disrespectful. They feel all kinds of intimacy should be restricted to their bedroom." In cases where the wife will be living with her in-laws, the solution is to firmly establish parameters and boundaries in the relationship between the new couple and the in-laws from the start and for all parties to know and understand a wife's rights from the Islamic perspective, according to Siddiqui. Another growing problem in relation to in-laws is increased meddling on the part of a wife's mother. "More and more, I'm seeing mothers of the wives interfering," said Shahina Siddiqui, President of the Canadian branch of the Islamic Social Services Association. In many situations, she explained that it's a case of projection. These older women want what they didn't have for their daughters and they may cause tension between the couple to get it, she said, whether that is freedom from household chores, advanced degrees or a fancy menu at the wedding. Itedal Shalabi, co-founder and co-director of Arab American Family Services in Burbank, Illinois has found the same in her experience as a counselor, with mothers pushing for materialistic things they did not receive as wives. "Marriage is not about a $10,000 wedding ring," she said, warning, "do you want the marriage or the materialistic things?"
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EDIT: Hey it's soundvision!!!
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I still love soundvision.
Also living with in-laws is NEVER easy. All my mates who are married and living with their husbands family have the same complaints: lack of privacy, fighting over stupid things his family will have said, never being really comfortable and feeling like you're living under someone elses roof, having to put up with a 100 random relatives and their changing mood-swings, etc etc. |
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Since then I feel that it is something that happens, it's a part of life, and I don't feel it is a bad thing necessarily, or rather it does not reflect badly upon a person." Zainab Awad of Washington, DC.
... "I don't necessarily think that's better. I think we tend to value an intact family over a healthy family. It's a matter of perspective and what we prioritize and how we define what's best for the kids." ... "I would not raise a child with him and pass on his absurdities to another human being," she said, explaining why she chose to end her marriage of five years when she did. Basith added she did not want her daughter to be raised in a home where there was no harmony, since she and her ex-husband argued regularly. ![]() shadha-
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In the Chinese written language the symbol for harmony is one woman under a roof. The symbol for disharmony is two women under the same roof.
My ex-mother-in-law criticized me for washing the outside of a glass before washing the inside of it, for how I made sure my kids ate veggies and restricted sweets, for taking a couple of hours a week to go ride my horse out in the hills, for getting mad at my ex for blowing his paycheck partying, and on and on and on and... Seriously, I could do NOTHING right in that woman's eyes. She interfered between her son and me and tried to control how I rasied my kids. She's one of the big reasons he became the ex. My current MIL is great. We talk, joke, share recipes, and she gives me great advice when I ask her (and only when I ask). My husband's family lives 100 miles away, too, so we are not stepping all over each other. In my opinion, a married couple should be on their own from day one so that they can grow their relationship without interference from parents and other relatives. Establishing physical, emotional, and spiritual intimacy is vital to the marriage- living with your parents can cripple that to the point that it irrevocably destroys the relationship between spouses. And yeah, men need to grow a pair and stand up for their wives. This is the woman who will bear your children, take care of your household, and grow old with you. She deserves your protection and support- even against your own mother. And a real man will know how to do that without being disrespectful to his mother. If the man is supposed to be the leader and authority in the marriage or home, he better darned well learn what it means and how to use it properly. |
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Divorce isnt easy on anyone, especially the children who have to live with the label of being the child of a "broken family" for the rest of their life, which of course will unfortunately haunt them as they try to find a potential spouse ESPECIALLY in desi culture
It is rough and sad because its a situation the children had no control over
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wow, the article mentioned alot of muslim women who cheat.. they must have been pretty trashy to begin with though
anyway, the article is very scary because i do think divorce is considered much sooner and for less valid reasons here.. i really wonder how much of this can be avoided by marrying a fob...
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Yes, I'm probably the only Islamican who says "I say"...go ahead and make fun of that MC, like my melodramatic "dust on feet" comment in the Jinnah thread. Fi Aman Allah |
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i'd say egyptian girls are probably a little bit less conservative about this than pakistanis, the article does mention that Egypt and turkey have the highest divorce rate in the muslim world (10%) but thats still mad low. Plus they only really divorce over very serious stuff, not trivial things like girls here ("the love is gone", "we've grown apart", "you have to move with me to accommodate my career or i'm leaving u", "we're 2 different ppl", "i dont like ur mom", etc)
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Im not a fobbette, but I feel as strongly about divorce as a fob/fobbette does for my own reasons |
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