[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by AbdurRaheem

Please dont offer fatwas based on speculation.

I wasn't offering fatwas, and neither were you. Fatwas kind of require scholarly proof and all that. Nobody here has offered proof of anything.

[AbdurRaheem]

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

Fatwas kind of require scholarly proof and all that

Fatwas are opinions / religious rulings. Ideally, fatwas SHOULD be backed up by scholarly proofs. They dont need to be, though.

eg.

Q. "Shaykh, I have a headache in the morning when I wake up for fajr. Do I still need to pray Fajr?"

A. "No"

that was a fatwa. It may have been incorrect, but it was a fatwa nonetheless.

[Jamroll]

Yeah good point. ablaye, you should approach your roommate and ask him to declare whether he accepts Islam, if not you will have to put him to the sword.

Well, I mean it doesn't have to be a sword. Just throw something at him.

[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by zzze

asslaamualaykum
...what smiley would you liek me to use - this one I hate this one.

Glad to be of service donchaknow

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by AbdurRaheem

Fatwas are opinions / religious rulings. Ideally, fatwas SHOULD be backed up by scholarly proofs. They dont need to be, though.

that was a fatwa. It may have been incorrect, but it was a fatwa nonetheless.

You can't say that every oppinion someone has about something is a fatwa. You have to have some knowledge to give a fatwa, or people will laugh at you. I never claimed it was a fatwa, and if I had, people would laugh at me. The reason some shaykh's don't give proof, as in that rediculous example you gave, is that the matter is either blatantly obvious, and/or the shaykh is already well known and respected as a person of knowledge. I am neither, so my oppinions aren't rulings about anything, they are simply my oppinions, and don't count as fatwas (the way common lay-people understand them to be).

Your oppinions aren't all fatwas, and don't count for sqat either, just so you know. They are just yout oppinions, that's all.

[riad19]

salaams,
i know i am late to the party but here is my .8 rupee (thats 2c with current exchange rate ) -
1] I think religious people set a bad example of our deen by making snap judgements of others and not treating other muslims kindly whether he is practicing or not. A muslim, practicing or not, is still a muslim and Allah will keep the whole universe intact even if there is one person who remembers Allah. So i think we need to keep things in perspective.

2] One should shun evil, but not evil doers. If prophet (s) didnt care for people who were committing the worst crimes in history, today we wouldnt be muslims. A person might not pray today, but who said that he wont pray tomorrow? If we see a brother or a sister who isnt close to their deen, we shouldnt judge them but rather make dua for them and try become the means by which they come close to Allah. We should be really nice to such people and slowly try to get them close to the masjid. If we dont encourage our own brothers and sisters, then who will? We cant just shun someone who wasnt as fortunate as us to grow up in an environment of tarbiyah and god consciousness.

3] Ibrahim (a) always preferred to eat his meal with guests. One day he had invited a person over and while sitting over their meal, Ibrahim (a) discovered that this person was a atheist. He (a) got angry and kicked that person out of his home. Upon this, Allah revealed wahi to Ibrahim (s) saying, this person had been denying the favors of Allah for many many years. But Allah never shunned him away from food or drink or his mercy. So why should Ibrahim (a) care more about a disobeyer than the person who was affected by the disobedience himself, ie Allah. Upon this Ibrahim (a) understood his mistake and apologized to that man and invited him back for food.

So, regardless of what a persons religious condition is, we should treat everyone like our own brothers and sisters, and only then we can resemble the true character of the Prophets.

Having said that, if he is doing certain things which is affecting your deen dramatically then its ok for you to consider getting another room mate. So for example, if he is bringing random girls to spend the night in ur apartment, or bringing in alcohol, etc then it would be a matter of protecting your own deen. If thats not the case, then try to find out more about him, help him in his needs, and give him some polite reminder. make an effort and inshallah u'll see results.

[Variable]

I think the original poster has been scared off.

[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by Variable

I think the original poster has been scared off.

Or his roommate knocked him out

[psychoteddybear]

Originally Posted by ablaye

Just a month. When I took him in as a roomate, I thought I was helping a muslim brother who needed a place to stay. But if he does not practice the deen, I feel I am not compelled to help him.

Only Allah swt has the right to judge his intentions

[TrentReznor858]

Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time;
it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable.
-Sidney J. Harris

I never noticed your sig before...this is a great quote...very true.

[rxrlm]

Originally Posted by riad19

3] Ibrahim (a) always preferred to eat his meal with guests. One day he had invited a person over and while sitting over their meal, Ibrahim (a) discovered that this person was a atheist. He (a) got angry and kicked that person out of his home. Upon this, Allah revealed wahi to Ibrahim (s) saying, this person had been denying the favors of Allah for many many years. But Allah never shunned him away from food or drink or his mercy. So why should Ibrahim (a) care more about a disobeyer than the person who was affected by the disobedience himself, ie Allah. Upon this Ibrahim (a) understood his mistake and apologized to that man and invited him back for food.

So, regardless of what a persons religious condition is, we should treat everyone like our own brothers and sisters, and only then we can resemble the true character of the Prophets.

Having said that, if he is doing certain things which is affecting your deen dramatically then its ok for you to consider getting another room mate. So for example, if he is bringing random girls to spend the night in ur apartment, or bringing in alcohol, etc then it would be a matter of protecting your own deen. If thats not the case, then try to find out more about him, help him in his needs, and give him some polite reminder. make an effort and inshallah u'll see results.

I heard that story of Ibrahim (as) just yesterday and was about to google it and qoute it. You beat me to it! mA

[psychoteddybear]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time;
it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable.
-Sidney J. Harris

I never noticed your sig before...this is a great quote...very true.

thanks

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