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Re: Living with a muslim roomate who does not pray
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I'm still confused. 
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Bro, she was being sarcastic towards him ... saying oh hell yea, lets kill off the ummah (by not supporting / strengthening those who are weak in their eeman)
hope that helps 
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Re: Living with a muslim roomate who does not pray
assalamu alaykum
lol. ibns right.(I bet you don't hear that often!)
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12-06-2007, 10:55 PM
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Re: Living with a muslim roomate who does not pray
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Bro, she was being sarcastic towards him ... saying oh hell yea, lets kill off the ummah (by not supporting / strengthening those who are weak in their eeman)
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Dammit people, this is why smilies exist!
I think the whole premise of the thread is so random that I have a hard time relating posts to it. Hence, I am like:  ?
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Dammit people, this is why smilies exist!
I think the whole premise of the thread is so random that I have a hard time relating posts to it. Hence, I am like:  ?
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yea man, when I saw zeezee's post, I too felt like kicking my brain out just because I thought I was being nice by letting it stay in my cranium.
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Re: Living with a muslim roomate who does not pray
asslaamualaykum
it's zzze!
also, what smiley would you liek me to use - this one  I hate this one.
or this one :  I hate this one too. So i guess in the future you're going to have to assume that i'm joking when I say ''death to the ummah''!
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To address the OP: if it's your place and you were doing the guy a favour by letting him stay, then you obviously have the right to do whatever you want and withdraw that favour at any time. However, your reasons for doing so are utterly absurd.
I wonder how things would have fared for the Prophet's ummah had the King of Ethiopia, whom the Prophet sent many of his followers in Mecca to seek refuge with, decided that he didn't need to help anyone who wasn't Coptic.
If the guy is unpleasant to live with or inconsiderate it is one thing, but to have this discriminatory attitude against him just because he doesn't live his life the way you want him to be living it is...
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asslaamualaykum
it's zzze!
also, what smiley would you liek me to use - this one  I hate this one.
or this one :  I hate this one too. So i guess in the future you're going to have to assume that i'm joking when I say ''death to the ummah''!
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The following would have worked:

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Re: Living with a muslim roomate who does not pray
When someone turns 10 and they're not praying, you can hit them. I say you should grab your bata chappals and make use of this hadith.
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Assalamu alaykum
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doesn't quite go with the overall tone of the post. Perhaps Islamica should upgrade to audio posts, then maybe u won't be so confused.
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Re: Living with a muslim roomate who does not pray
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I say you should grab your bata chappals and make use of this hadith.
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Re: Living with a muslim roomate who does not pray
Kicking him out is the easy solution. Why dont you look at it as if Allah [swt] is giving you the opportunity to guide him back to Islam? Every good deed he does after will be written on your account inshaAllah.
Dont leave him alone and 'mind your own business', as others have suggested. But have sabr and try to work with him...
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Also, if you force Islam onto him, that might turn him away. There's no compulsion in religion.
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I think your understanding of that ayah might be incorrect bro. If what you said was true, then Abu Bakr (RA) would be completely wrong in fighting - and killing - those people who refused to pay Zakaat after the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)'s death.
'cept Abu Bakr (RA) wasnt wrong. -)
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Re: Living with a muslim roomate who does not pray
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Kicking him out is the easy solution. Why dont you look at it as if Allah [swt] is giving you the opportunity to guide him back to Islam? Every good deed he does after will be written on your account inshaAllah.
Dont leave him alone and 'mind your own business', as others have suggested. But have sabr and try to work with him...
I think your understanding of that ayah might be incorrect bro. If what you said was true, then Abu Bakr (RA) would be completely wrong in fighting - and killing - those people who refused to pay Zakaat after the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)'s death.
'cept Abu Bakr (RA) wasnt wrong. -)
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Yes and no. Zakat is different than prayer in that if you don't pray, you suffer spiritually. If you don't pay Zakat, the whole community will suffer, because they were relying on your money. So, Abu Bakr was right to force people to pay zakat, but I'm not aware of any accounts where anyone was forced to pray.
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Please dont offer fatwas based on speculation.
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Please dont offer fatwas based on speculation.
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So what does that ayah mean then, hmmm?

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So what does that ayah mean then, hmmm?
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You do not force a Christian to become a Muslim.
You do not force a Jew to become a Muslim.
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Once you accept Islam and profess to believe its teachings, then its rules are obligated on you.
The pillars of faith are not pick-and-choose options.
And Allah [swt] knows best.
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