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Old 09-13-2007, 06:30 PM
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Pentagon censors 9/11 suspect's tape By PAULINE JELINEK, Associated Press Writer
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WASHINGTON - The Pentagon has released a censored audiotape of suspected Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — deleting a part officials said could be used to recruit future terrorists.

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The tape of Mohammed's 40-minute hearing before a U.S. military proceeding in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, was edited to exclude a 10-minute passage about the kidnap and beheading of U.S. journalist Daniel Pearl and Mohammed's explanation for why Islamic militants are waging jihad against the United States, as well as information the government said was classified.

Most of what was deleted was a long, rambling statement in poor English that often made it hard to understand what Mohammed was trying to say. The public may read that statement in a 26-page transcript previously released by the Defense Department, but after months of debate, officials decided the audio of it should be held back.

"It was determined that the release of this portion of the spoken words of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would enable enemies of the United States to use it in a way to recruit or encourage future terrorists or terrorist activities," said Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman. "This could ultimately endanger the lives and physical safety of American citizens and those of our allies."

Calling Mohammed a "notorious figure," Whitman added, "I think we all recognize that there is an obvious difference between the potential impacts of the written versus the spoken word."

Remaining portions of the tape include voices of tribunal members, a translator and Mohammed, who spoke in a calm, often soft voice as he challenged evidence against him and responded to questions.

The March 10 closed court session at Guantanamo Bay was held to determine whether Mohammed should be declared an "enemy combatant." He has since been assigned that status, a classification the Bush administration says allows it to hold him indefinitely and prosecute him at a military tribunal.

Some of the statements deleted from the tape have already been widely reported since the transcript was posted to the Pentagon's Web site in mid-March. Others statements were cut both from the audio and the transcript and remain secret because of security and privacy concerns, officials said.

Mohammed was the first of 14 so-called "high-value" detainees who were held in secret CIA prisons before being transferred to the Pentagon facility at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Audiotapes of other high-value detainees have been released by the Pentagon. Whitman said he did not know if any of those have been used as propaganda by extremist groups on the Internet.

At Mohammed's hearing, he portrayed himself as al-Qaida's most active operational planner, confessing to the beheading of Pearl and to playing a central role in 30 other attacks and plots in the U.S. and worldwide that killed thousands.

The gruesome attacks range from the suicide hijackings of Sept. 11, 2001 — which killed nearly 3,000 — to a 2002 shooting on an island off Kuwait that killed a U.S. Marine.

Among other statements that appeared in the transcript but were cut from the audio were Mohammed saying he felt some sorrow over Sept. 11.

"I'm not happy that 3,000 been killed in America," the transcript quoted him as saying in broken English. "I feel sorry even. I don't like to kill children and the kids."

He said there are exceptions in war.

"The language of the war is victims," Mohammed said in a part of the transcript that was cut from the audio. He compared al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden to George Washington, saying Americans view Washington as a hero for his role in the Revolutionary War and many Muslims view bin Laden in the same light.

Also cut from the audio were his assertions that Wall Street Journal reporter Pearl was in Pakistan to investigate on behalf of Israeli intelligence officials; that many terrorist suspects being detained by the United States are not enemy combatants; that Muslims have been oppressed by the United States, and that he is motivated to fight the United States on religious grounds.

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Is this meant to be journalism? Why have they not even questioned this censorship?
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:47 PM
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Is this meant to be journalism? Why have they not even questioned this censorship?
Oh you see, it's to protect national security. Our governments would never do something from bad intentions, because... well, because they're our government.
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Oh you see, it's to protect national security. Our governments would never do something from bad intentions, because... well, because they're our government.
Yes and they are democratically elected; you have a vote, the elected government may not be to your liking, that's not too surprising since Muslim are still a minority and your religion is intrusive into the secular. but your allegiance should be to your country and your elected government, if that is not possible you should take up residence elsewhere, in the meantime moan, seek change, but do it with respect
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Yes and they are democratically elected; you have a vote, the elected government may not be to your liking, that's not too surprising since Muslim are still a minority and your religion is intrusive into the secular. but your allegiance should be to your country and your elected government, if that is not possible you should take up residence elsewhere, in the meantime moan, seek change, but do it with respect
lol, did you just tell me to seek residence elsewhere?! You seek residence elsewhere. I'm quite happy where I am, thank you very much.
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news stories should be as objective as possible

all too often, people want journalists to write articles to take some position and make an opinionated argument based on it. There's a place for that kind of writing, but one has to be aware that if they want journalists to write opinionated articles then the journal is going to write their own opinions into the article, and if those opinions dont match the ones that the reader holds, then the reader is going to correctly accuse the journalist of injecting biased opinions into a factual news article
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I don't think your jibberish applies here. The unpartiality that you are refering to is absent from this piece, rather it seems to justify the actions of American govt while disregarding the basic principle of 'presenting the account of both parties'.

Who are they to claim parts of the testaments is "long" and "rambling". This, if you are too stupid to realise, is applying value judgement to News, which journalists, as you've pointed out, shouldn't do. Their job is to report it.
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I don't think your jibberish applies here. The unpartiality that you are refering to is absent from this piece, rather it seems to justify the actions of American govt while disregarding the basic principle of 'presenting the account of both parties'.

Who are they to claim parts of the testaments is "long" and "rambling". This, if you are too stupid to realise, is applying value judgement to News, which journalists, as you've pointed out, shouldn't do. Their job is to report it.
The interesting thing to note is that, they've cut bits of the audio out but apparentely given a full transcript. How do we know that was all that was said? And if it was, why cut it out from the audio? All this points to suggestions that they might be trying to hide something.
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lol, did you just tell me to seek residence elsewhere?! You seek residence elsewhere. I'm quite happy where I am, thank you very much.
That really is a stupid response, read what I have written.
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I don't think your jibberish applies here. The unpartiality that you are refering to is absent from this piece, rather it seems to justify the actions of American govt while disregarding the basic principle of 'presenting the account of both parties'.

Who are they to claim parts of the testaments is "long" and "rambling". This, if you are too stupid to realise, is applying value judgement to News, which journalists, as you've pointed out, shouldn't do. Their job is to report it.
long is not a value judgment, its just a descriptive word. The word 'rambling' may not be completely objective. But it is immediately followed with a suggestion for the audience to read the statement themselves, since most of what has been cut from audio was already published in print

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That really is a stupid response, read what I have written.
what's stupid about it? The "if you don't like it, go somewhere else" argument goes both ways.
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I'm not surprised. Considering how they have a reputation of hiding things from people, being biased and holding people prisoner without charge.

What a 'democratic' government.
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what's stupid about it? The "if you don't like it, go somewhere else" argument goes both ways.
Because I was not telling him to leave the UK, I was pointing out that those that chose to live in the uk should behave in a certain way, if not they should in all sincerity leave or they are just hypocrites.

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I'm not surprised. Considering how they have a reputation of hiding things from people, being biased and holding people prisoner without charge.

What a 'democratic' government.
Yes of course they have that reputation with people of your type, but who cares.
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