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"American" Afghanistan's Three Major Crops: Opium, Human Organs and Children
by Jane Stillwater


I just heard an eyewitness account of life in Afghanistan that curdled my blood. Have you heard similar reports? "Since the American takeover of Afghanistan, the major crops there are now opium, human organs and children." What is the lowest denominator that human beings can sink to? It's all happening in American Afghanistan.

Of course we know about the secret torture chambers that American and Pakistani contractors have set up there. But do you know why they are there? "People are being grabbed off the street and tortured in order to get information out of them. These torturers think that somehow, if they torture enough people, they will get lucky and discover information that the Americans might be willing to pay for."

We already know about Afghanistan's opium trade. Under American supervision, Afghanistan has become the world's number one heroin supplier--even outdistancing Burma's infamous Golden Triangle. "Since America has taken over, there is more opium being grown in Afghanistan than there are vegetables." How to relate it to our own experiences? It would be as if our great California central valley was now devoted solely to growing opium. If that were to happen here, what would Californians eat? Ask that same question in Afghanistan. The answer is, "Not much."

It's clear to anyone who is up on current events in this region that Prime Minister Hamid Karzai is pretty much a puppet. "He is hardly more than the Mayor of Kabul. If that."

Besides these well-known incompetencies, corruptions and crimes against humanity, what else is new in American Afghanistan?

"Children in Afghanistan are being kidnapped--from off the streets and even from out of their homes." According to the Pakistan News Service, one Afghani father was asked to pay $4,500 in ransom for his kidnapped son. At first the kidnappers sent the distraught father his son's finger--with a note attached saying, "Next time it will be his head." The father payed the ransom money. The boy was returned naked and drugged.

In American Afghanistan, young girls are being sold to American contractors to use for sex. "Even the American-sponsored hospitals are not safe. There have been instances of girls and young women going there, being anesthetized for one reason or another and then, when they come out of the anesthesia, discovering that they have been raped."

Children have become a cash crop in American Afghanistan. Our "Northern Alliance" buddies are harvesting children over there just like the way we in America are harvesting wheat.

In America, George Bush supporters are trying to instigate a Constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage. Instead, let's instigate an amendment making it illegal to give US taxpayer money to support Afghani warlords who participate in the rape and sale of children.

And if Americans are willing to pay big bucks for nation-building in Afghanistan, let's do it right. Let's stop giving tanks and dollars to sleazy warlords and start giving books and food to RAWA, the only organization that effectively fought the Taliban and is now in a position to actually help the people of Afghanistan.

In American Afghanistan, there is another all-too-familiar harvest: Human organs. "It is a common occurrence for the bodies of young people to be found with their hearts, kidneys, livers and even their eyes carefully and surgically cut out." No organ is wasted. What would you call this? Recycling? Ecology? Organic farming?

This is our "Christian" government's finest hour? America's presentation of democracy to the world? This behavior sickens me. Usually I like to suggest some upbeat answer to every problem but I don't even want to talk about it any more.

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Subhanallah. This is so sad. The same thing is happening in Iraq - the cases of rape and innocent people being murdered.

Ah - the American Soldiers are so 'honourable' and whatever Bush decides for the Muslim Lands is for their best, isn't it? After all, they are the ones who are civilised and intelligent.

May Allah subhanna wa ta'ala make the Mumineen victorious and help those who are suffering. Ameen.
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Subhanallah. This is so sad. The same thing is happening in Iraq - the cases of rape and innocent people being murdered.

Ah - the American Soldiers are so 'honourable' and whatever Bush decides for the Muslim Lands is for their best, isn't it? After all, they are the ones who are civilised and intelligent.

May Allah subhanna wa ta'ala make the Mumineen victorious and help those who are suffering. Ameen.
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Salam,

For hundreds of years, Westerners have tried to "tame" Afghanistan and have failed. They will fail in this endeavour too, despite what it might look like at the moment. They are foolish in thinking that the Pashtun will ever be ruled by foreigners, ever. I am absolutely confident that the Afghan people will have their country back soon, inshallah.
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As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,
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For hundreds of years, Westerners have tried to "tame" Afghanistan and have failed. They will fail in this endeavour too, despite what it might look like at the moment. They are foolish in thinking that the Pashtun will ever be ruled by foreigners, ever. I am absolutely confident that the Afghan people will have their country back soon, inshallah.
I think Afghanistan has become a land of too much mixture. There are so many migrants from the Tajik and Uzbek areas influencing the government with their secular ideas in the North and allowing the Western ideology to the public. Its the South that still wants Afghanistan's old state back, particularly the Pashtun.

Allaahu Alaam. Its a tough situation.

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I think Afghanistan has become a land of too much mixture. There are so many migrants from the Tajik and Uzbek areas influencing the government with their secular ideas in the North and allowing the Western ideology to the public. Its the South that still wants Afghanistan's old state back, particularly the Pashtun.

Allaahu Alaam. Its a tough situation.

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As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,


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I think Afghanistan has become a land of too much mixture. There are so many migrants from the Tajik and Uzbek areas influencing the government with their secular ideas in the North and allowing the Western ideology to the public. Its the South that still wants Afghanistan's old state back, particularly the Pashtun.

Allaahu Alaam. Its a tough situation.

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And what would be the old state?

I don't know much about Afghanistan, but all I hear is primarily negative. Why do people still do such odd things there, esp. regarding women? I understand being modest and all, but where in the Quran does it say women cannot educate themselves? Or be allowed to freely go to and from general places? And I'm not talking about disrobing oneself.

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And what would be the old state?
Back in the days when the Pashtun were rulers of the area and the people were at peace.

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I don't know much about Afghanistan, but all I hear is primarily negative. Why do people still do such odd things there, esp. regarding women? I understand being modest and all, but where in the Quran does it say women cannot educate themselves? Or be allowed to freely go to and from general places? And I'm not talking about disrobing oneself.
I think the majority of women there are getting an education. If they are not able to transport to the school because their families are conservative, then they usually have teachers come to their home but as far I know, no one is against education.

In regards to going out alone freely, well when I went there I noticed that no women who was under 30 ever went out alone. They were always with mahrams or with their family (in a group). This is because it is much safer to be with someone. But if someone were to go out alone, it wouldnt matter. As a matter of fact, I went out alone a couple of times to get some shopping done (though my father was unaware of it). If you want to go out and hang out on the streets with a couple of your best girlfriends, then thats a different story. There are parks made for women to go out and enjoy themselves. No one is forced to be at home 24/7. Even though afghan women do not really hang out while they do their shopping, I noticed that many restaurants had segregated areas for women to dine in as well (which was great for us travelers).

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Salam,

For hundreds of years, Westerners have tried to "tame" Afghanistan and have failed. They will fail in this endeavour too, despite what it might look like at the moment. They are foolish in thinking that the Pashtun will ever be ruled by foreigners, ever. I am absolutely confident that the Afghan people will have their country back soon, inshallah.
you know, i understand that sentiment and i know you mean well by it but if you think about it, its very patronizing to the people of afghanistan when they are described like that. On the one hand, when they are described as wild mountain people who can never be conquered or ruled by foreigners, it means they are brave and resilient and so on. But on the other hand, the same description paints them as a bunch of barbarians living in mountains by standards that are somehow very different from those of other humans living in more civilized parts of the world. Its a double edged sword. I dont think afghans are unconquerable, and at the same time I also dont think they are outside of the fold of human civilization either.
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As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

Back in the days when the Pashtun were rulers of the area and the people were at peace.



I think the majority of women there are getting an education. If they are not able to transport to the school because their families are conservative, then they usually have teachers come to their home but as far I know, no one is against education.

In regards to going out alone freely, well when I went there I noticed that no women who was under 30 ever went out alone. They were always with mahrams or with their family (in a group). This is because it is much safer to be with someone. But if someone were to go out alone, it wouldnt matter. As a matter of fact, I went out alone a couple of times to get some shopping done (though my father was unaware of it). If you want to go out and hang out on the streets with a couple of your best girlfriends, then thats a different story. There are parks made for women to go out and enjoy themselves. No one is forced to be at home 24/7. Even though afghan women do not really hang out while they do their shopping, I noticed that many restaurants had segregated areas for women to dine in as well (which was great for us travelers).

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salam,

That's great! The media usually paints such a bleak picture that you really don't know for sure...

Hanging out on the streets anywhere is silly...but I mean, like what if a girl just needed to run to a store real quick and grab some groceries...or just some random thing. That's all.

The way people speak about it, it's like all men in Afghanistan are sex crazed and borderline psychotic and will grab any and all women who dare to venture out alone

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That's great! The media usually paints such a bleak picture that you really don't know for sure...
Since when did the media ever give a clear picture of anything?

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Hanging out on the streets anywhere is silly...but I mean, like what if a girl just needed to run to a store real quick and grab some groceries...or just some random thing. That's all.
Yes. Its just that the women of the household just dont usually send their teenage daughters out to get the groceries either. They either send their husbands/sons or go themselves. Thats a mother - daughter issue and I think its better anyways.

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You know to tell you the truth, my family and I have visited many majority Muslim population countries including, Bahrain, UAE, Pakistan, Oman, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Even though people tend to think Afghan men are sexually frustrated men, the amount of respect I received in southern Afghanistan, I had not received in any of the countries named above. Men will stare at you, wink at you, hoot at you and even attempt to touch you at times and all of those have happened in those countries but nothing of that sort happened in southern Afghanistan. Yes, I admit when I was in Kabul...men were weird but not in Qandahar. AlHumdu-Lillaah.

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