[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

The best thing to do is prevent further migration or bringing in more Hindu labor into the Gulf. After the Babri Masjid demolition the Saudi Govt no longer hires Hindus from India, those jobs are reserved for Muslims only. Not only that, expelling all Hindus out of the Gulf would be a good idea too.

Actually, this sounds like a good idea. I'll probably raise the issue through our Arabic-media.

I don't personally hold anything against Indians or Hindus. All the ones I've known in person (except for my flatmate) have been really nice. But if ordinary Hindus are not going to do something to stop the shameful abuses, I don't see why they should come and enjoy the security and comfort of living in a Muslim land.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

Actually, this sounds like a good idea. I'll probably raise the issue through our Arabic-media.

I don't personally hold anything against Indians or Hindus. All the ones I've known in person (except for my flatmate) have been really nice. But if ordinary Hindus are not going to do something to stop the shameful abuses, I don't see why they should come and enjoy the security and comfort of living in a Muslim land.

exactly and not just that think about how much money they send back home to thier relatives? India's economy relies heavily on foreign money that pours into the country, and much of it especially comes out of the Gulf countries. They maybe low wage jobs in the Gulf, but in India thats alot of money for them, especially when you combine it. India's number one export is manpower and labor. 20 million Indian citizens/Nationals live outside of India. Expel the Hindus and hire only Muslims from India who need that money anyways. The indian governments own committee report showed that 50% of Muslims in India live at or below the INDIAN poverty level. So they really need those Gulf jobs more than anything else.

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

exactly and not just that think about how much money they send back home to thier relatives? India's economy relies heavily on foreign money that pours into the country, and much of it especially comes out of the Gulf countries. They maybe low wage jobs in the Gulf, but in India thats alot of money for them, especially when you combine it. India's number one export is manpower and labor. 20 million Indian citizens/Nationals live outside of India. Expel the Hindus and hire only Muslims from India who need that money anyways. The indian governments own committee report showed that 50% of Muslims in India live at or below the INDIAN poverty level. So they really need those Gulf jobs more than anything else.

You're right.

It's anyway in the news lately. People are outraged at the new statistics that show the Indians alone in Dubai to be 1.3 millions. The government is already cracking down heavily on illegals working in the country, and many of them Hindus of course, because they seem to be the ones sent out here for jobs.

I don't know how they feel about Muslims, but if they were your average Indians who have no animosity against Muslims, then I can't help but feel sorry for them. They too need the money. That's the problem, I guess. We want to show them we're angry, yet we feel sorry for them and think, "but they have nothing to do with it."

You know? Maybe we should just go ahead with that long-term project to strengthen the Muslim community through education and sponsored jobs in India. Like for example if someone from the Gulf builds a school and hires only Muslim teachers; or a hospital and hires and trains only Muslim staff ... etc. that would be a real blow in the face for the Hindu terrorists. I think that's much better.

[shsh]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

and take a look there is not a day that goes by where i dont post some time of news like this out of India.

so...basically...india sucks?

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

It's anyway in the news lately. People are outraged at the new statistics that show the Indians alone in Dubai to be 1.3 millions.

Time for a cull.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by shsh

so...basically...india sucks?

for alot of Muslim's yes. but especially the north indian muslim. I mean in Hyderabad alot of jobs got outsourced over there. I asked my fob cousins are muslims benefiting from it, especially from the poverty sticken old city and they said yes, that thier lives are improving economically so thats a good thing to hear.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

You're right.

It's anyway in the news lately. People are outraged at the new statistics that show the Indians alone in Dubai to be 1.3 millions. The government is already cracking down heavily on illegals working in the country, and many of them Hindus of course, because they seem to be the ones sent out here for jobs.

I don't know how they feel about Muslims, but if they were your average Indians who have no animosity against Muslims, then I can't help but feel sorry for them. They too need the money. That's the problem, I guess. We want to show them we're angry, yet we feel sorry for them and think, "but they have nothing to do with it."

You know? Maybe we should just go ahead with that long-term project to strengthen the Muslim community through education and sponsored jobs in India. Like for example if someone from the Gulf builds a school and hires only Muslim teachers; or a hospital and hires and trains only Muslim staff ... etc. that would be a real blow in the face for the Hindu terrorists. I think that's much better.

Well here is how i look at it. If Hindu's didnt hate Muslims in India, then why did they elect a hindu-fascist political party who espouces hatred for Muslims not once, but three times? How much of that Gulf money they earn is sent back into the hands of these fascists? They should be banned from working in the Gulf, they should be taught a huge lesson, that they cannot rely on money earned from Muslim countries, while hating Muslims in thier own country at the same time. Maybe not everyone is prejudice, but everyone holds thier own prejudice in one way or another. Just look at bollywood, look at all those anti-Muslim, anti-pakistan propaganda. The Indian media is full of propoganda of Muslims are either a.) terrorists, or b.) mafioso-type gangsters. or criminals or lazy, or uneducated, much in the same way that the american media paints its minorities. oooo fear the evil muslim is the message that they send out to the Hindu masses.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

and it is true, that in the UAE south asians, not just Indians alone, are the majority, and if a foriegn population is the majority in any country that would sound alarm bells anywhere. But at the same time the UAE needs that cheap labor, and needs that manual labor to do the jobs that most of its own citizens would never do. Maybe diversifying more, giving more jobs to african Muslims, to phillipino Muslims, Muslims who have been deprived and suffering in many other countries should benefit and that should ease the number of south asians residing there.

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

Well here is how i look at it. If Hindu's didnt hate Muslims in India, then why did they elect a hindu-fascist political party who espouces hatred for Muslims not once, but three times? How much of that Gulf money they earn is sent back into the hands of these fascists? They should be banned from working in the Gulf, they should be taught a huge lesson, that they cannot rely on money earned from Muslim countries, while hating Muslims in thier own country at the same time. Maybe not everyone is prejudice, but everyone holds thier own prejudice in one way or another. Just look at bollywood, look at all those anti-Muslim, anti-pakistan propaganda. The Indian media is full of propoganda of Muslims are either a.) terrorists, or b.) mafioso-type gangsters. or criminals or lazy, or uneducated, much in the same way that the american media paints its minorities. oooo fear the evil muslim is the message that they send out to the Hindu masses.

You know, most of the time, it's the so-called Muslim "superstars" who act in these anti-Muslim Hindi movies. There was a movie I saw some time back, which had an actor whose name I forgot (what am I talking about?) .. Ok, it's like he was some Kashmiri terrorist, and his wife was blind, and they were all Muslims ... something like that. I remember clearly that someone told me that particular actor is a Muslim (at least by name, I don't care). Thank Allah I didn't smash the laptop watching that silly movie.

You've got to blame Muslims for the stuff they do as well, you know. I mean, the reason Hindus are hired and favoured over Muslims to some extent is because for some reason, Muslims act like gangsters. Subhan Allah, they are the thieves and the rapists in the country. You will rarely read in the news about a crime committed by a Hindu, but almost all the time, if it's an Asian, it's a Muslim. (Not that UAE nationals don't commit crimes; they've been acting like beasts let loose, but I'm talking about the migrant workers.)

Muslims don't only need a strong PR campaign, but they also need to reform themselves and act like Muslims. Otherwise, I'd love for us to populate the country with Muslims from all over the world, and give them citizenships and passports too.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

ignorance and poverty is what breeds that type of criminal mentality. Not sure why the media shows only Muslim criminals though. And that is true many of the actors in these bollywood movies are Muslims. And ill tell you why, its propoganda, Because they know that alot of Muslims and especially in Pakistan are watching these movies, so they have these fake Muslims come and act in them.

i dont know what the name of the movie that you are talking about since i dont watch them, but im going to take a wild guess here and say it was shah rukh khan and the movie was veer zara? i heard its about some indian soldier and pakistani girl in kashmir. thats all i know about it.

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

and it is true, that in the UAE south asians, not just Indians alone, are the majority, and if a foriegn population is the majority in any country that would sound alarm bells anywhere. But at the same time the UAE needs that cheap labor, and needs that manual labor to do the jobs that most of its own citizens would never do. Maybe diversifying more, giving more jobs to african Muslims, to phillipino Muslims, Muslims who have been deprived and suffering in many other countries should benefit and that should ease the number of south asians residing there.

Like I said, Muslims act really weird, and I wish it was just about a few random cases.

And it's not true that UAE nationals don't do all sorts of jobs.

The first UAE national chef in a hotel kitchen UAE - The Official Web Site - News

After the case of this dude, we've had so many corner shops (we call them cafeterias) opening up with young UAE nationals working "part-time," cooking and delivering the food themselves.

One of my cousins (16 year old) is an impressive mechanic. He's a "freelance" mechanic and charges for his services.

UAE nationals do all sorts of jobs, you just don't hear about them. You only hear what the sheikhs do, not what the ordinary people do.

Oh, and back to the whole issue about Muslims acting weird .. I'll give you a personal example: We had this Indonesian helper at home who ran away one day. The driver, who's a Hindu (he's been with us since I was a baby), came to complain to my dad about the helper, who would go to his room, turn on the radio and dance in front of him! My dad went to "advise" her that it is not right of a Muslim woman to go to a man's room, and on top of that, to dance in front of him. The next thing we knew, she packed up and ran away, lol! I told my father, it wasn't worth it man. You should have just let her dance (j/k)

[GOTFIVEONIT]

hehe funny story.

but when i wrote that there are jobs that people wont do, i meant adult workers.

i mean here in the u.s. after all there are jobs that most americans, myself included, will not do, simply because of our age and education level. of course many of the lower level jobs are done by teenagers, like cashier, or delivery boy and things like that, and they give these kids some spending power with it. but when it comes to jobs that you can live off of and raise a family on, of course most of us in first world countries will not do menial labor work. its why the u.s. allows so many illegal migrants from south america and eastern europe in. for example so many work in the construction industry, from poland and mexico over here. because they dont need to know english to do those jobs.

[Songbird]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

Oh, and back to the whole issue about Muslims acting weird .. I'll give you a personal example: We had this Indonesian helper at home who ran away one day. The driver, who's a Hindu (he's been with us since I was a baby), came to complain to my dad about the helper, who would go to his room, turn on the radio and dance in front of him! My dad went to "advise" her that it is not right of a Muslim woman to go to a man's room, and on top of that, to dance in front of him. The next thing we knew, she packed up and ran away, lol! I told my father, it wasn't worth it man. You should have just let her dance (j/k)

Lol, goose!

Your life often reads like a good Arab soap.

[MossadConspiracy]

steady construction work actually brings in good money. And if the worker is in a union then they can definitely support a family

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

hehe funny story.

but when i wrote that there are jobs that people wont do, i meant adult workers.

i mean here in the u.s. after all there are jobs that most americans, myself included, will not do, simply because of our age and education level. of course many of the lower level jobs are done by teenagers, like cashier, or delivery boy and things like that, and they give these kids some spending power with it. but when it comes to jobs that you can live off of and raise a family on, of course most of us in first world countries will not do menial labor work. its why the u.s. allows so many illegal migrants from south america and eastern europe in. for example so many work in the construction industry, from poland and mexico over here. because they dont need to know english to do those jobs.

See, a lot of the construction worker in the UAE are also from Egypt and Palestine. They're not as many as Indians, but they are a large number. Unfortunately, they are very often caught in many crimes, like theft and sexual harassment. The government does not have to deal with so many violations by non-Muslim Indians. They're generally scared, and for some reason they think that Shariah is implemented, and that they'll be punished severely. They simply behave. Muslims just take advantage of everything and exploit the system. They have this attitude: "This is not their money, this is Muslim money. So it's OK for me to take it (i.e. steal it)."