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Obama on race relations, Rev. Wright, etc.
This is one of the best speeches I've heard by a politician. His critics may find reasons to dismiss it but the fact remains that most of his counterparts are too indoctrinated to utter these realities.
YouTube - Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union'
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03-18-2008, 05:45 PM
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Re: Obama on race relations, Rev. Wright, etc.
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This is one of the best speeches I've heard by a politician. His critics may find reasons to dismiss it but the fact remains that most of his counterparts are too indoctrinated to utter these realities.
YouTube - Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union'
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yeah it was amazing. all across news channels people are saying it was amazing
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03-19-2008, 09:18 AM
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This is a formidable response to Hillary's nitty gritty negative politics. She did an excellent job of convincing people Obama was such a terrible guy that it was necessary to vote for her. Hillary is a smart politician who can get away with mud slinging but Obama's campaign has always been about eclipsing such things and he needed this to give him a firmer grip on the lead. He re-established himself as the superior candidate last night.
What I found most impressive about this is that he 'kept it real' for the ages to come instead of letting pressure distract him from saying what was on his mind. Such a blunt and bold analysis I did not see coming at all and now that it's all over and done with, Hillary is at a crossroads. Ultimately, I think she's going to focus again on the idiots of America and hit them harder than she did Texas and Ohio. It's her only chance at upsetting Obama.
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Yeah you gotta love the ending where he bashed Rev. Wright for speak critically of allies like Israel as opposed to recognizing the hatred of radical Islam.
How many Muslims are willing to waste a couple hours of their lives standing in line to vote for another mainstream candidate who doesn't give a rats ass what the Muslim community think to him. If your Muslim your vote does not matter in the US at least.
A mulatto candidate doesn't change that
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There goes your dignity out the window 
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There goes your dignity out the window 
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I got angry at his praise of Israel and attack on Islam.
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But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren't simply controversial. They weren't simply a religious leader's effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country - a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.
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i'll refrain from comment coz most of it would get *'d out anyway
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I got angry at his praise of Israel and attack on Islam.
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There's a ton of more dignified responses you could have expressed donchaknow.
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i'll refrain from comment coz most of it would get *'d out anyway
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Re: Obama on race relations, Rev. Wright, etc.
I mean he has to say these things if he is going to
have any chance of winning, and since so many people
in the states are racists and just plain ignorant that there
doesn't seem to be any other way.
That said, obviously it's bad that he says those things....
but maybe just maybe he will change if he gets a chance
to, because just look at that Rev. that he had for so long.
Lastly, every politician that I have heard of so far is a liar...
P.s. I'm not a democrat nor a republican.
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I mean he has to say these things if he is going to
have any chance of winning, and since so many people
in the states are racists and just plain ignorant that there
doesn't seem to be any other way.
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We are a people with no backbone if that's how we allow people to insult us.
In any case, most presidents are worried about a second term...so it's not like this issue will just go away after he becomes president.
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Muslims talking about how "amazing" this speech was?....wow
Rev. Wright would make a better president than Obama...
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Muslims talking about how "amazing" this speech was?....wow
Rev. Wright would make a better president than Obama...
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I agree. I'd vote for the reverend in a second. May Allah [swt] grant him hidaya.
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I got angry at his praise of Israel and attack on Islam.
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It's called Politics
Obama's loyalty toward Israel has been debated in the Israeli press (serach Haaretz/Jerusalem Post Op/Ed archives).
It's not only the American people he needs, he also needs the approval of the Lobby and the votes of Miami Jews (very imp., FL being a swing state). On the other side, J. Lieberman is pushing for McCain.
Obama's present/former affiliations with Brzezinski, Robert Malley, Susan Rice, and his former pro-Palestinian stance favor his opponents. Pro-Israeli rhetoric is all he got to defend himself and show his loyalty toward Israel.
Brzezinski, 79, stepped into the crossfire this summer when he published an essay in the summer issue of the journal Foreign Policy, defending a controversial new book about the power of the “Israel Lobby” in American politics.
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“It is a tremendous mistake for Barack Obama to select as a foreign policy adviser the one person in public life who has chosen to support a bigoted book,” said Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz, one of the most visible critics of the Walt and Mearsheimer volume, titled “The Israel Lobby.”
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Malley and his views have recently come under attack from critics, such as Martin Peretz of The New Republic, who has written that Malley is "anti-Israel", a "rabid hater of Israel. No question about it.", and that several of his articles in the New York Review of Books were "deceitful."
On the American Thinker Web site, Ed Lasky wrote that Malley "represents the next generation of anti-Israel activism", and the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), published an article arguing that "Malley’s parents were rabidly anti-Israel" and that his articles on the Middle East "demonize Israel only slightly less than his father".
Until May 9, 2008, Malley was a Middle East-policy adviser to the Barak Obama presidential campaign, which summarily cut ties to him when The Times of London reported that Malley had been in discussions with the militant Palestinian group Hamas, listed by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist organization.
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