[roberto]

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

Because they came to Afghanistan with the intention to save these people souls from eternal damnation (Christian view, not mine) and they left their nice comfortable homes to risk their lives in crappy Afghanistan for this purpose. Now they not only failed at their goal, but they are also being held hostage, their freedom stolen from them, and there is almost no chance of negotiating their release, so their brutal deaths are almost certain.

Yeah, it was pretty dumb to go to a Muslim country and try and convert people to Christianity, that's true. However, I don't they the really deserve the treatment they've recieved either. I'm sure, being Christian aid workers, they were doing other good things for the people too. I'm sure they were doing other things like teaching basic hygiene, providing books, clothing etc. and those are things that Afghani's need. Where are the Muslim aid groups to help the Afghan people? Where are the Muslims helping these poor people? These poor Afghans need help, and if the only place they can get help is from Christians, should they reject the help on the basis of religion?

This is impressive post, congratulations

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Well in all fairness, the Muslim Red Crescent society is doing its best to operate in Afghanistan. Along with plenty of other Islamic charities, such as Islamic Relief, etc. Of course though, the Charities here are being harrassed and targeted by the u.s. government as well. But overall they are there in afghanistan.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

Well in all fairness, the Muslim Red Crescent society is doing its best to operate in Afghanistan. Along with plenty of other Islamic charities, such as Islamic Relief, etc. Of course though, the Charities here are being harrassed and targeted by the u.s. government as well. But overall they are there in afghanistan.

There are very few aid organizations working in Afghanistan, period. The few that are, bey the Muslim charities or otherwise, are being targeted for kidnapping.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

There are very few aid organizations working in Afghanistan, period. The few that are, bey the Muslim charities or otherwise, are being targeted for kidnapping.

well you just answered your own q on why there are very few aid workers there. because of the safety issues.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

well you just answered your own q on why there are very few aid workers there. because of the safety issues.

I never posed a question.

[Variable]

I'm just going to ignore the idiotic posts in here about how they deserve it, and ask if anyone hears about their status on the news. It doesn't seem to be big news over here, you hear almost nothing.

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

I never posed a question.

He means the following question you asked: "Where are the Muslim aid groups to help the Afghan people?"

[ABCDGIRL]

Do you think its right to give people money to leave their religion after taking away their country and their resources?

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

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The South Koreans are a group of Christian evangelicals who had been involved in missionary and aid work in Afghanistan.
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Why is it that aid work is combined with missionary work? Aid work and evangelical don't go together. Its like if you want aid, listen up and change.

Allahu alam whether they deserved it; but in a war situation it's their mistake to be going there.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by ABCDGIRL

Do you think its right to give people money to leave their religion after taking away their country and their resources?



Why is it that aid work is combined with missionary work? Aid work and evangelical don't go together. Its like if you want aid, listen up and change.

Allahu alam whether they deserved it; but in a war situation it's their mistake to be going there.

This group is there independent of their government's war effort. And aid often goes together with missionary work, it's gone hand in hand for centuries. I've worked with a Christian aid group or two and have found they do very little proselytizing if at all. I don't know if these guys were the same, but either way, they don't deserve to be killed. They may not be the brightest for doing what they did, but the responsibility for their murders, the immorality belongs solely to the people holding them captive and carrying out their deaths as they see fit.

[Skinwalker]

Originally Posted by Variable

This group is there independent of their government's war effort. And aid often goes together with missionary work, it's gone hand in hand for centuries. I've worked with a Christian aid group or two and have found they do very little proselytizing if at all. I don't know if these guys were the same, but either way, they don't deserve to be killed. They may not be the brightest for doing what they did, but the responsibility for their murders, the immorality belongs solely to the people holding them captive and carrying out their deaths as they see fit.

I agree with you Variable. Most Christian aid groups operating today are more interested in helping people first. For those who aren't I'd put them in the fringe whacko group cult mentality list. It is far more immoral for people to murder each other than talk about their faith.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Skinwalker

I agree with you Variable. Most Christian aid groups operating today are more interested in helping people first. For those who aren't I'd put them in the fringe whacko group cult mentality list. It is far more immoral for people to murder each other than talk about their faith.

what a joke. the only reason they run off to the third world is to convert these people. There are plenty of starving people, and starving kids, people on drugs and homeless in the urban ghettos of america. have you ever been down there? i feel sorry for the third world type conditions those people are forced to live in. Why dont those same charities do their work over there? You know why they dont? because those people are already christian to begin with.

If Christians are soo keen on helping poor Muslims, they are more than welcome to send thier money to the Red Crescent society.

[ABCDGIRL]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

what a joke. the only reason they run off to the third world is to convert these people. There are plenty of starving people, and starving kids, people on drugs and homeless in the urban ghettos of america. have you ever been down there? i feel sorry for the third world type conditions those people are forced to live in. Why dont those same charities do their work over there? You know why they dont? because those people are already christian to begin with.

If Christians are soo keen on helping poor Muslims, they are more than welcome to send thier money to the Red Crescent society.

For once I agree with you

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by roberto

This is impressive post, congratulations

To hear that from you... is censure in and of itself. I should be more careful in the future not to say things you might remotely agree with, or at least say them in a way you wouldn't be able to comprehend.

[Shahnawaz]

Allahu Akbar, that in and of it self sould be sufficient evidence of how ignorant your comments are. And believe me ignorant is an understatement.

[FMROMMEL]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

If Christians are soo keen on helping poor Muslims, they are more than welcome to send thier money to the Red Crescent society.

How 'bout we send nothing at all..........would you like that?

And what is the RED CRESENT doing to help them now??????????

Probably not much.