[GOTFIVEONIT]

Bhutto party set to name Pakistan PM candidate

by Rana Jawad

Thu Mar 6, 3:04 AM ET

ISLAMABAD (AFP) - The party of slain opposition leader Benazir Bhutto was expected Thursday to nominate Pakistan's new prime minister to lead a parliament that could decide the fate of President Pervez Musharraf.

Pakistan People's Party vice-chief Makhdoom Amin Fahim is the frontrunner to be nominated by the party's MPs, who are meeting in Islamabad just over two weeks after the PPP scooped the most seats in parliamentary elections.

Musharraf, a key ally in the US-led "war on terror", saw his backers trounced in the polls and must now deal with a coalition that includes not only the PPP but also his archfoe, former premier Nawaz Sharif.

But with Washington pressing for stability in the nuclear-armed nation, the PPP-led coalition has not yet indicated whether it is ready for a full showdown with Musharraf, who seized power in a coup in 1999.

Bhutto was killed in a suicide attack in the garrison city of Rawalpindi on December 27 and her widower and successor as party leader, Asif Ali Zardari, has said he is not standing for the premiership.

Zardari was meeting on Thursday "for consultation" with the party's newly-elected lawmakers, party spokesman Farhatullah Babar told AFP.

A senior party official said however that the PPP was "very close to naming the prime minister" after Zardari had heard the party's opinions.

The poetry-loving Fahim, 69, one of Bhutto's most loyal lieutenants, held a 45-minute meeting with Zardari on Wednesday, a close aide to Bhutto's widower told AFP.

Another contender is Ahmed Mukhtar, an industrialist who is close to Zardari and who defeated the chief of the pro-Musharraf party in the elections, party officials said.

Also in the running are Yousaf Raza Gilani, who served as parliamentary speaker for a time under Bhutto, and Shah Mehmood Qureshi, head of the PPP's Punjab branch, they said.

The United States, which is Pakistan's key financial and military backer, has appealed to the victorious opposition parties to work with Musharraf in the new parliament.

The coalition needs only to bring on board a few more independent MPs to secure the two-thirds majority with which it could theoretically launch impeachment proceedings against Musharraf.

Sharif, the man ousted by Musharraf nearly nine years ago, and his Pakistan Muslim League-N party have been outspoken in their calls for him to quit.

But the PPP's Fahim told CNN last month that there were no immediate plans for Musharraf's removal, saying that the new government should "not rock the boat at this time".

Zardari has received several visits from Western ambassadors since the election and has also avoided any outright commitment to removing the former general.

In a possible signal of rapprochement, an anti-graft court on Wednesday threw out five of seven corruption cases that were hanging over Bhutto's widower from her two terms in power.

The ruling followed an amnesty granted to Bhutto and Zardari in October by Musharraf, which had paved the way for her return from exile amid talk of a Western-backed power-sharing arrangement between her and the president.

Separately on Thursday five suspected militants accused of involvement in Bhutto's murder were remanded in custody by a Pakistani anti-terrorist court in Rawalpindi.

Security was tight for the brief hearing. A judge ordered the men to be held in the city's main Adiala jail until the next sitting on March 10, court officials said.

Pakistani police last week formally charged top Taliban and Al-Qaeda commander Baitullah Mehsud, who is holed up in the country's tribal belt bordering Afghanistan, with masterminding her killing.

He has denied any involvement.

[sally]

why are indians so obsessed with pakistani politics?

[DramaRani]

Originally Posted by sally

why are indians so obsessed with pakistani politics?

Because they secretly with they were Pakistani. Its true .

[Ilikemyscarf]

Originally Posted by sally

why are indians so obsessed with pakistani politics?

? just because gotfive is obsessed with it?

[sally]

Originally Posted by DramaRani

Because they secretly with they were Pakistani. Its true .

Originally Posted by Ilikemyscarf

? just because gotfive is obsessed with it?

i just think it's funny that gotfive hates on desis and then talks about how india is great and then posts articles about pakistani politics all the time.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by sally

i just think it's funny that gotfive hates on desis and then talks about how india is great and then posts articles about pakistani politics all the time.

when did i ever say that? im equally critical of everyone, especially india's treatment of its Muslim minority. Im interested in the politics of the region, especially when you have a u.s. puppet calling the shots in pakistan, i think its in this nation's interest to find out whats going on over there. maybe that was the reason why this news story was on the front page of yahoo.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by DramaRani

Because they secretly with they were Pakistani. Its true .

if that's the case then we can call the whole partition into question. would you care to debate that?

i mean its funny, jinnah himself wanted my parents home state to join pakistan.

it was only after jinnah's death, did the indian army invade setting off the razakar rebellion against indian occupation.

funny, i guess that only means something to pakis, whenever the issue of kashmir, india's only muslim-majority state left, is brought up.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

and sally let me tell you something about desi hypocracy that ticks you off soo much everytime i bring it up.

imagine if you will, say you had a brother, and your brother meets sweet desi girl. i mean you cant compare them to those trashy white chics you see on maury povich or jerry springer. that's a fact. for however 'wild' desi chics may get, short of being a porn star, their wild youth is no way in comparison to the trashy trailor park white chics you see out there.

so your brother meets this nice, sweet girl, she sure as heck doesnt compare to those white chics you been around in the past (half of whom act like lezbo's) so he what does do? even though he faces a complete total interrogation from her mom, about his lack of urdu skills, his income, how 'desi' is he, etc. he respects thier customs, he respects thier cultural traditions doesnt try to pursue her the way you would if you were trying to pursue someone for dating. he makes a formal rishta, only to have it thrown in face, even being told by that girl's mom that they want someone 'religious' for thier dotting daughter.

and then you look at the frickin hypocracy of it all. while thier only son, is a complete alchoholic. probably comes home puking his brains out in the toilet after a night of binge drinking. hangs out with white trash, who are probably doing everything from coke to tripping on acid. keeps the companies of porn star like ho's and could very well already be possibly carrying anytype of std, from gonnera to herpes. heck who knows, maybe when hes goes to urinates, instead of urine, fire shoots out instead!

you tell me what kind of frickin hypocracy is this? ooh we want everyone else to be such and such, but our spoiled brat can do whatever he wants, because hey, he's our blood so who cares!

and let's just say oh your brother is moderatly religious. he is not a fanatic, but he isnt a jahil either. and he certainly doesnt touch liqour or alchohol. sure he has his faults, but he stay's away from the major biggies, such as alchohol and pork. he attends jummah every friday, fasts all 30 days in ramazan, every year since he was 14, even does volunteer work at the masjid, has some pretty good knowledge of Islam and doesnt party, doesnt goto clubs like that or anything. heck he stil has yet to turn in his v-card!

but yet these same hypocritical parents balk saying 'we want someone religious'.

now these same parents start thier search for a rich wealthy doctor for thier dotting daughter, who knows she is probably looking for one herself. maybe even a harvard grad? but you see, being the silly fob-wannabe, yet typical abcd, she quickly finds out about the BACKGROUND CHECKS that are done by these rich desi folks. even to the point where they are hiring P.I.'s and the grooms parents look at each and every single member of the family with scrutiny. so they find out about this guy, and start to think, imagine what kind of mamu he would be like? imagine what kind of example he would set for his nephews and/or nieces? but the silly girl is too stupid to figure this out, and those hypocrical parents of her's figure they are just too sly and slick to hide this boy from any potentional rishta's.

now i on the other hand, dont think like that. i dont believe that the sin's of the brother are the sin's of the sister. however, most desis, especially the parents, dont think like me.

there's your desi hypocracy for you in your face. desi parents demanding other people make them look good in front of 'apna desi kawmunnity' while they spoil thier own brats in the process.

[MossadConspiracy]

if the brother drinks and shoots heroin and is HIV positive and carries a gat and has a prison record.... then the parents are bad parents and their daughter is not wife material because of that

That is the central lesson of Pakistani politics

[Zam]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

and let's just say oh your brother is moderatly religious. he is not a fanatic, but he isnt a jahil either. and he certainly doesnt touch liqour or alchohol. sure he has his faults, but he stay's away from the major biggies, such as alchohol and pork. he attends jummah every friday, fasts all 30 days in ramazan, every year since he was 14, even does volunteer work at the masjid, has some pretty good knowledge of Islam and doesnt party, doesnt goto clubs like that or anything. heck he stil has yet to turn in his v-card!

What does he expect to get in return for being such a good person? Respect from all the desi uncles and aunties? Marriage to their daughters? Is pleasing society everything?

[minab]

Im not impressed with Pakistani politics at all. It makes me cringe, I will do ultee. I used to think Fatima could take Benazir's place but she couldnt, neither could Zulfiqar although he's quite the stud, and the PPP is all khichri now because of Benazir's husband the evil muchar

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Zam

What does he expect to get in return for being such a good person? Respect from all the desi uncles and aunties? Marriage to their daughters? Is pleasing society everything?

no, im making the point that those who live in a glass house shouldnt throw stones. dont sit there and scrutinize someone else, when you cant even control your own outta control kids.

and let's just say that many years ago, when the guy was like 12, this girl's mom told his father to take him to masjid, raise him religious blah blah blah. then why she didnt do the same with her own daam son! talk about hypocracy. face it, you desis are natural born hypocrites period! your lame argument makes no sense in anyway possible.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

if the brother drinks and shoots heroin and is HIV positive and carries a gat and has a prison record.... then the parents are bad parents and their daughter is not wife material because of that

That is the central lesson of Pakistani politics

many many people do think like that. i honestly am not one who thinks like that. especially if your ties to them go waay back, then thats a different thing altogether. but for people who barely know them find out, they will not be so lenient and hold the same attitutde that you are holding.

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

many many people do think like that. i honestly am not one who thinks like that. especially if your ties to them go waay back, then thats a different thing altogether. but for people who barely know them find out, they will not be so lenient and hold the same attitutde that you are holding.

yeah families need to be careful.

What else is there to judge people by? Their reputation, the reputation of their family members and the family as a whole, their career, the way they conduct themselves in terms of religion and tradition, any wealth or status or anything else they may bring with them, and looks

if you take all of that out of the picture then theres nothing left. Basically the dad would just be randomly marrying his daughter off to some guy for no reason except that the guy wants her

and of course if the family raised one scumbag and you dont really know much about them, it makes you skeptical about the girl. Apples dont fall far from trees, and even if the girl herself is good, nobody wants their kids raised around a bunch of lowlives

ws

[Jamroll]

Exactly. Family honour is hugely important.