[Deadsoul]

want to know how muslims here feel about the Iranian government. .

[IbnAbdullah]

Well, if you're a sympathiser of the Terrorist West then know that Muslims can support anyone that gives a hard time to the Evil West. Americans in particular are not happy with Iranians at least apparently, though they are still helped by Iranians on a number of issues e.g Iranian support to the check on insurgency in Iraq. The shia government of Iraq is backed by Iranians and they (the shia government) are allies of Americans against sunnis or their resistance. One way or another, the Terrorist Americans are indeed helped by Iranians.
In the recent past, Iranians were backing Americans against Taliban, even before the Afghan invasion, they (Iranians) were the part of American plan to attack Afghanistan before 9/11. Iranians have always backed Northern Alliance and with the help of Indian and Russians they have supported anti-Taliban forces because they are hard core shias that can't tolerate hard core sunnis (Taliban e.g) even if they live in peace.
This shia-sunni strife has always been availed by the Evil West.

And if you're a sympathiser of shi'ism then know that sunnis having sound knowledge of religion don't consider Iranians as part of Muslim Ummah. They don't believe Iranians are the followers of Islam rather a new religion which was developed by the ethnic rivals of Arabs, the Persians, through a period of time that started just after the conquest of Persia by Umar ibn Khattab radiyallahu anhu.
To me, Iranians are okay, if they mind their own business and don't poke their nose in everything that's related to sunnis, then obviously, I wouldn't care about who the heck they are.

[ChotooMotoo]

Well, I think they had good intentions, but corruption is rampant. Because of the corruption, the idea cannot be realized, and Iran is not really a good example of an Islamic state.

[Abdul_Karim]

Iran is not an Islamic state at all.

[Jamroll]

To be honest, aside from a few BBC documentaries I've seen on Iran, I don't know a great deal about Iran's domestic policies, and how the people of Iran feel regarding their country being Islamically just or not.

I've heard stories about them oppressing their minority Sunni population, but I don't know how accurate this is.

Regarding their foreign policy, I think their strong stance against Israel, is admirable, in a world where supposedly strong Muslim countries like Saudi, Egypt and Pakistan, either cosy-up to Israel, pay lip service to condeming Israeli attacks on Palestinians, or even look the other way.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by Abdul_Karim

Iran is not an Islamic state at all.

I was trying to be diplomatic. If one really things critically about the situation, there is no such state on earth. There are lots of states that call themselves Islamic, but calling yourself, and being are two different things.

[Revert]

There no Isalmaic states in this world today. There many countries that are Muslim Majority though.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

I was trying to be diplomatic. If one really things critically about the situation, there is no such state on earth. There are lots of states that call themselves Islamic, but calling yourself, and being are two different things.

Given that, has there ever been a truly Islamic state? Even the early Caliphates did some pretty un-Islamic things.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by Variable

Given that, has there ever been a truly Islamic state? Even the early Caliphates did some pretty un-Islamic things.

I think there have been short periods in history where small states really have been Islamic, but they are few and far between. Why is that? Lets face it, people run states, and people are not perfect. Even perfect laws will be disregarded, perverted, and poorly implemented by an poor ruler. Just look at Roman history, as a prime example. There were periods in Roman history where people were pretty just with eachother, and then you have Caligula.

[Zam]

I think Saudi Arabia and Iran are both Islamic states in the outward sense based on their respective schools. They establish what is outwardly required of an Islamic state, in terms of their laws.

Whether overall there is 'justice' or not is more difficult to establish, and in truth, the word 'Islamic' should first denotate justice before it denotates any practices of the Shariah that exist to establish justice. Even if the laws are good, the people in power can subvert the purpose of those laws through wrong and insincere judgments.

I think if we require perfection from an Islamic state then there were never any and will never be any, except for the time of the Prophet (sallahu alayhi wa salam), the Khulafa Ar-Rashidun, and the time of Isa (alayhi salam) that will come.

We also have to define what we mean by 'state'. If we just mean the pieces of paper which define the laws and the institutions which are set up to uphold those laws, then what problem is there in defining any country that has Shariah rulings and courts as being Islamic, at least in its judicial system?

In terms of by what system the country is ruled, there is no specific Islamic injunction that you have to have a monarchy or a republic or any specific government type, so I don't know how to define what is Islamic or not in that context.

Overall though, I think a true and holistic Islamic state will have justice established through the Shariah, no matter what style of ruling whether monarchy or republic.

[Biryani]

Originally Posted by Deadsoul

want to know how muslims here feel about the Iranian government. .

Iran's not perfect, but seem to have a headstart on the others...

There is corruption but moreso at the lower levels than the upper levels.

They're supporting Muslim causes.

I wentt here and I liked it.

Bir

[Abdul_Karim]

Originally Posted by Biryani

They're supporting Muslim causes.

Being a pawn to Russia and Red China is not "supporting Muslim causes". Iran doesn't care about anything that doesn't affect the Shi'ah. They don't care about the Chechens (infact they support Russia's fight agianst them).

[psychoteddybear]

no...but they're a strong nation as well.

[Salahadeen]

I believe they are good for Shi`as. Not so good for Sunnis.

[Biryani]

Originally Posted by Abdul_Karim

Being a pawn to Russia and Red China is not "supporting Muslim causes". Iran doesn't care about anything that doesn't affect the Shi'ah. They don't care about the Chechens (infact they support Russia's fight agianst them).

I'd prefer pawns to Russia and China than to being pawns to America and Isreal... then again some may disagree..

Maybe not EVERY Muslim cause as pointed out by the brother, but I think they do a good job for at least some Muslim causes...