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Indonesia is the first Muslim country to refuse to recognize Kosovo
That is the suck..why is that?
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Old 02-18-2008, 04:19 PM
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Indonesia is the first Muslim country to refuse to recognize Kosovo
Are you sure? I would have thought Albania and Turkey would be the first.
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because East Timor was created in a similar manner, and there are other regional independence movements in Indonesia

China and Spain are against Kosovo for similar reasons

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I'm pretty sure Pakistan would have recognised Kosova as an independent state, or at the very least declared an intention to recognise it.
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Are you sure? I would have thought Albania and Turkey would be the first.
why???? Its the opposite bro

Albania loves Kosovo, they're really one people. They held a national holiday to celebrate Kosovo independence. Also Albania isnt a muslim-majority country (actually it is, I'm wrong)

Turkey was one of the first countries in the world to recognize Kosovo. The Kosovars and Albanians are their progeny, and the Turks have always been their allies against slavs

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Lol! Mystery solved. I misread your first post bro.

I thought you said "first to recognise", when in actual fact you said "first to refuse to recognise". No wonder I was baffled by your following posts. lol, my bad.

Yes, it makes sense that Albania would be the first to recognise, after all Kosovans are ethnically Albanian. Also Turkey has strong links to Kosovo and Albania. I'm pretty sure Pakistan and Saudi would have been among the first to recognise the new state also. Most of the other Muslim countries won't be far behind I'm sure.

It's a shame Indonesia isn't recognising, but then I guess like you say they're more concerned about their own internal politics. Shame, really.
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this page has a good summary, but I dont know how accurate everything on it is:

International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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because East Timor was created in a similar manner, and there are other regional independence movements in Indonesia

China and Spain are against Kosovo for similar reasons

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Yeah, I just read that Sri Lankan has declared that the creation of Kosova is a violation of the UN charter. I guess it's because they're fighting the Tamil Tigers, so internal politics again.
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this page has a good summary, but I dont know how accurate everything on it is:

International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hmm, it says Egypt and Israel haven't decalred any intention to recognise yet. I wonder why that is. Aren't they part of the whole close US allies club?
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most of the Arab countries are going to be in a tough spot because they try to always keep good relations with both the Western and the Eastern blocs. The exceptions are countries like Syria and Iran, and countries like Saudi Arabia which are committed to one side over the other. I think Egypt will end up recognizing Kosovo, and so will most of these other places, they're just waiting for the whole charade of UN negotiations to happen

Israel rejects unilateral declarations of independence because of the Palestinians.

I can see Iraq and Iran being cold to Kosovo as well

Interestingly, Bosnia is not recognizing the new state, because apparently Bosnian Serbs are blocking it or something
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Lol! Mystery solved. I misread your first post bro.

I thought you said "first to recognise", when in actual fact you said "first to refuse to recognise". No wonder I was baffled by your following posts. lol, my bad.

Yes, it makes sense that Albania would be the first to recognise, after all Kosovans are ethnically Albanian. Also Turkey has strong links to Kosovo and Albania. I'm pretty sure Pakistan and Saudi would have been among the first to recognise the new state also. Most of the other Muslim countries won't be far behind I'm sure.
Pakistan will definitely recognise Kosovo. The Pakistani contingent in KFOR were well received by the locals, and there is the political dimension. Kosovo is to Albania what Kashmir is to Pakistan.
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Long life to the newest country in the world -Kosova!

I don't know why people care what flag albanians display? The flags of those countries are not displayed for no reason. That's why they already recognized Kosovo next day.
Why nobody talks about the attrocities committed by serbs in Kosovo and especially in Bosnia? They killed around 250.000 people only in Bosnia.
In the recent war in Kosovo they killed around 10 000 albanians. But since Ottoman Empire colapsed they massacred albanians after First Balkanic War(before and after WWI) then they did the same thing after WWII. The number of the killed albanians is probably bigger than 100 000.
The suffering of Albanian people is over so that's why everybody should know the independence of Kosovo is a good thing.
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Serbian Army left a trail of blood. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive...649D946396D6CF
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I watched a very cynical and worrying TV program about Kosovo. The program showed that statues of the Catholic nun Mother Teressa, who is said to be an ethnic Albanian, are placed everywhere in Kosovo and the Albanians look to this woman as their national hero. Another person who is their hero and whose statues they put everywhere is Iskender Beg, who renounced Islam and converted to Christianity a few centuries ago and started a war against Muslims. All the Kosovans who were interviewed adore America. Even more worryingly, the Kosovan Albanian intellectuals who were interviewed openly remark that their Muslim identity is an annoying obstacle in their effort to become a western and European people. In sum, according to that TV program, the Americans and the Christian missionaries are changing Kosovo for the worse and they have lots of collaborators within Kosovo. Madad yaa Allah!
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I watched a very cynical and worrying TV program about Kosovo. The program showed that statues of the Catholic nun Mother Teressa, who is said to be an ethnic Albanian, are placed everywhere in Kosovo and the Albanians look to this woman as their national hero. Another person who is their hero and whose statues they put everywhere is Iskender Beg, who renounced Islam and converted to Christianity a few centuries ago and started a war against Muslims. All the Kosovans who were interviewed adore America. Even more worryingly, the Kosovan Albanian intellectuals who were interviewed openly remark that their Muslim identity is an annoying obstacle in their effort to become a western and European people. In sum, according to that TV program, the Americans and the Christian missionaries are changing Kosovo for the worse and they have lots of collaborators within Kosovo. Madad yaa Allah!
Ugur, have you been listening to your government again?
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