Islamica Community

"We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

You aren't logged in. Sign in below or register today!
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 07:13 PM
Jamroll's Avatar
Jamroll
Super Moderator Offline
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Rating: 9 Votes / 4.56 Average
Posts: 17,249
Jamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond repute
Default "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

It’s been eight years now. Eight long years. Sure, initially I was glad when China toppled the Bush regime and executed the “retarded tyrant” as I love to call him. It wasn’t that bad at the start, but as time wore on and I realized they weren’t leaving, it started to gnaw at me.

Bush declared martial law in June of 2008. This was after going nuclear on Iran and the chaos surrounding the oil shock that followed soon after. People had said he’d been planning the Iran move for a while, but the media kept pointing out how much of a threat Iran was so I guess we needed to act. He didn’t have any conventional forces or weaponry because we’d become over-extended in Iraq and Afghanistan so he went nuclear. What came next wasn’t clear for many years and is still disputed today. All I know for sure is that oil become scarce in a real hurry. China removed the Yuan/dollar peg, called in its massive store of US Treasury bonds and sent the greenback into freefall. Americans didn’t realize that China was trading more with Europe than the US, and while the move stung China, it crippled the US. They then started paying the Saudis and other Persian Gulf countries in Yuan, the new global currency. The greenback was shunned like a redheaded stepchild. The same thing worked on Venezuela and Mexico. It is rumored that the Chinese then, using covert ops, disabled much of the Canadian oil infrastructure and America was oil dry within weeks. Everything ground to a halt.

Bush declared martial law soon after and the Chinese invaded to “remove a tyrant that the rest of the world considers an unnacceptable risk”. Of course the US military went nuclear with the Chinese but didn’t realize that the 15+ satellite launches a year the Chinese had been grinding out were all part of an ICBM defense system. None of the nukes got through. It was over quickly. The famed military-industrial complex of the US was an amazing powerhouse. It’s just that without oil, the powerhouse didn’t have all that much power. Unlike previous wars where the might of American production pushed us over the top militarily, this war was lost without so much as a whimper.

The Chinese instituted some changes. They said that the only truly free society was one in which everyone worked for the common good. The imposed their political system on us without asking. I think they believe they’re doing us a favor.

Read the rest here: We fight for freedom - or “What if someone else did it to us?” « Cathartic Relief
__________________
The time will never be ‘just right’.
Start where you stand, work with whatever tools you may have at your command,
and better tools will be found as you go along.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 07:17 PM
IbnMardhiyah's Avatar
IbnMardhiyah
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Jun 2002
Rating: 18 Votes / 3.83 Average
Posts: 7,058
IbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to IbnMardhiyah Send a message via MSN to IbnMardhiyah
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

That, was dumb.
__________________

Elizabeth Swann: There will come a moment when you'll have the chance to do the right thing.
Jack Sparrow: I love those moments. I like to wave at them as they pass by.


.:[ maverick007.wordpress.com ]:. .:[ What's going on, Eh? ]:.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 07:19 PM
Jamroll's Avatar
Jamroll
Super Moderator Offline
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Rating: 9 Votes / 4.56 Average
Posts: 17,249
Jamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond reputeJamroll has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah View Post
That, was dumb.
Why do you say that, dude? I thought it was quite interesting.
__________________
The time will never be ‘just right’.
Start where you stand, work with whatever tools you may have at your command,
and better tools will be found as you go along.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 07:20 PM
IbnMardhiyah's Avatar
IbnMardhiyah
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Jun 2002
Rating: 18 Votes / 3.83 Average
Posts: 7,058
IbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to IbnMardhiyah Send a message via MSN to IbnMardhiyah
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

No no, don't get me wrong - it was interesting for sure. The satire is beyond obvious.

I just thought the part of them shutting down Canadian oil infrastructure was dumb. That didn't make any sense.
__________________

Elizabeth Swann: There will come a moment when you'll have the chance to do the right thing.
Jack Sparrow: I love those moments. I like to wave at them as they pass by.


.:[ maverick007.wordpress.com ]:. .:[ What's going on, Eh? ]:.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 08:29 PM
Variable's Avatar
Variable
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Posts: 7,329
Variable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

There were a lot of silly things in there, but I think it's beside the point. I think it'd be nice if a lot of Americans read something like this and saw that point aside from the silliness.
__________________
I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God. Amen.
~Martin Luther
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 08:58 PM
IbnMardhiyah's Avatar
IbnMardhiyah
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Jun 2002
Rating: 18 Votes / 3.83 Average
Posts: 7,058
IbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to IbnMardhiyah Send a message via MSN to IbnMardhiyah
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

I mean, come on Vari, - shutting down Canadian facilities? - everyone knows our brave and valorous Canadian Armed Forces would never let the Chinese to get away with such an outrage. We'd roll over them like they were nothing.
__________________

Elizabeth Swann: There will come a moment when you'll have the chance to do the right thing.
Jack Sparrow: I love those moments. I like to wave at them as they pass by.


.:[ maverick007.wordpress.com ]:. .:[ What's going on, Eh? ]:.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-24-2008, 12:09 AM
Jack_Sparrow's Avatar
Jack_Sparrow
Banned Offline
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Rating: Not Rated
Posts: 593
Jack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond reputeJack_Sparrow has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

Canadia is our current b**tch, it wouldn't be that hard to convert that title to being the china's b**tch. surely, that large empty country can't put up a whole lot of effort.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-24-2008, 12:40 AM
IbnMardhiyah's Avatar
IbnMardhiyah
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Jun 2002
Rating: 18 Votes / 3.83 Average
Posts: 7,058
IbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond reputeIbnMardhiyah has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to IbnMardhiyah Send a message via MSN to IbnMardhiyah
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

You will of course, with your unmatched observation skills, notice that I was being sarcastic.

Canadian Armed Forces are a joke. We usually tell them to come and clean up our cities after major snowstorms.
__________________

Elizabeth Swann: There will come a moment when you'll have the chance to do the right thing.
Jack Sparrow: I love those moments. I like to wave at them as they pass by.


.:[ maverick007.wordpress.com ]:. .:[ What's going on, Eh? ]:.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-24-2008, 01:49 AM
Variable's Avatar
Variable
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Posts: 7,329
Variable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

Why the hate?
__________________
I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God. Amen.
~Martin Luther
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-24-2008, 02:45 AM
Aminah2006's Avatar
Aminah2006
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Rating: 1 Votes / 5.00 Average
Posts: 255
Aminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond reputeAminah2006 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Variable View Post
There were a lot of silly things in there, but I think it's beside the point. I think it'd be nice if a lot of Americans read something like this and saw that point aside from the silliness.
Assalaamu Álaykum,
OK, I am an American, I read it...just what point is it you want me to see?
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 01-24-2008, 07:27 AM
Variable's Avatar
Variable
Senior Member Offline
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Rating: 2 Votes / 5.00 Average
Posts: 7,329
Variable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond reputeVariable has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: "We fight for freedom" or "What if someone else did it to us?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aminah2006 View Post
Assalaamu Álaykum,
OK, I am an American, I read it...just what point is it you want me to see?
I was talking specifically about those Americans who thought they did Iraq a favour by liberating them and bringing them democracy. I don't think there are too many Americans here who feel that way.
__________________
I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God. Amen.
~Martin Luther
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"We fight in Iraq while our eyes are on Jerusalem.." Shahnawaz News & Media 17 12-21-2007 01:40 AM
New Album fron Native Deen "Not Afraid to Stand Alone" ikid23 Arts & Humanities 12 12-06-2007 07:27 PM
CAIR targets Michael Savage over "anti-Muslim bigotry" AmroodWaala News & Media 24 11-14-2007 08:32 PM
a few american muslims celebrating the cali fires as "Allah's punishment" ShiaHazara News & Media 39 11-03-2007 10:14 PM
Jewish Talmud school rejects child with "stained genealogy" Jamroll Government & Politics 12 09-06-2007 08:49 PM


X vBulletin 3.6.7 Debug Information
  • Page Generation 0.16635 seconds
  • Memory Usage 6,574KB
  • Queries Executed 16 (?)
More Information
Template Usage:
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (3)bbcode_quote
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (4)im_aim
  • (4)im_msn
  • (5)iprof_zodiac_sign
  • (1)navbar
  • (3)navbar_link
  • (1)option
  • (11)postbit
  • (11)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (121)postbit_reputation
  • (11)postbit_wrapper
  • (5)showthread_similarthreadbit
  • (1)showthread_similarthreads
  • (2)spacer_close
  • (2)spacer_open
  • (1)vbseo_linkbackmenu
  • (1)vbseo_linkbackmenu_entry
  • (1)vbseo_linkbacks 
Included Files:
  • vbseo.php
  • includes/functions_vbseo.php
  • includes/config_vbseo.php
  • includes/config.php
  • showthread.php
  • global.php
  • includes/init.php
  • includes/class_core.php
  • includes/functions.php
  • includes/class_hook.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/global.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/includes/config.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/includes/init.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/includes/functions.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/includes/block_functions.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/includes/blocks/search.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/includes/blocks/php.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/header.php
  • /home/islamica/public_html/footer.php
  • includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • includes/class_postbit.php
  • includes/class_bbcode.php
  • includes/functions_reputation.php
  • includes/functions_vbseo_extra.php 
Hooks Called:
  • init_startup
  • verify_id_start
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • style_fetch
  • cache_templates
  • global_start
  • parse_templates
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • showthread_getinfo
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • showthread_query
  • showthread_preprocess
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • fetch_musername
  • reputation_image
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • showthread_similarthread_query
  • showthread_similarthreadbit
  • forumrules
  • navbits_start
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • showthread_complete

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35