[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by Kaminyu

Can this aid money be benefited from more domestically than abroad?

no

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[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

no

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So it's just surplus that the US has, which it gives to other countries as aid?

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by Kaminyu

So it's just surplus that the US has, which it gives to other countries as aid?

America doesnt have surplus, we run a massive deficit and have the biggest debt on earth. The question is whether it is worthwhile to spend American money on Africans with AIDS and food and paychecks for Palestinians rather than letting these people starve, suffer, or die and spend that cash on other things here in the United States. Ron Paul says no, I say yes.

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[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

America doesnt have surplus, we run a massive deficit and have the biggest debt on earth. The question is whether it is worthwhile to spend American money on Africans with AIDS and food and paychecks for Palestinians rather than letting these people starve, suffer, or die and spend that cash on other things here in the United States. Ron Paul says no, I say yes.

I say the government should do whatever is best for whoever it governs. If it's in the best interests of them for aid to be sent to other countries, then that's what they should do. Otherwise, "sending aid" isn't their job.

Is it in the best interest of the US to send aid to other countries?

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by Kaminyu

I say the government should do whatever is best for whoever it governs. If it's in the best interests of them for aid to be sent to other countries, then that's what they should do. Otherwise, "sending aid" isn't their job.

Is it in the best interest of the US to send aid to other countries?

yes

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[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

yes

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Good. In that case, I agree with it (with the exception of Israel).

[Deel]

just thought i'd throw these in here

YouTube - Rigged USA Elections Exposed

YouTube - Did Ron Paul Win New Hampshire?

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by Deel

just thought i'd throw these in here

YouTube - Rigged USA Elections Exposed

YouTube - Did Ron Paul Win New Hampshire?

I saw those, and I'm not surprised either. They pulled the same stuff in 2000 and 2004.

They got busted this time though in Sutton, NH, where people were reporting that their votes weren't counted, since they had Sutton listed as having 0 votes for RP, when in fact people there had voted for him. So they had to change it, and now its gone from 0 to 31.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by MoonStar

yeah I've reminded my family of the date. And made sure we were registered.

MoonStar: "Bro, sign this form to register. And check the Democrat box. You have to vote for Obama next month."

Brother: "Why am I being forced to vote for someone, what if I want to vote for McCain??" (he was kidding).

MoonStar: That's haraam.

well every state is different. in some states, like mine, you dont have to actually be registered for any party to vote in thier primaries. and repugs take advantage of that by voting in democratic primaries for candidates they know the repugs can beat in november. so walking into an open primary and voting for mccain isnt a bad idea, because he cant win in november.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

I hear theres a candidate who wants to make an exception to the anti-slavery amendment which would enslave all doctors and make it illegal for women from south asian backgrounds to marry them

the truth is that over-paid doctors drive up health care costs, and leave millions without health insurance to cover those costs. i mean if were going to be importing cheap foreign labor, im sure we can import plenty of cheap foreign doctors from the middle east and india and pak who would be more than happy to work for $40K a year and do it with a smile on thier faces.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by Kaminyu

Good. In that case, I agree with it (with the exception of Israel).

i have been thinking about what you have been writing for the past few days now, and i have a q for you. what if ralph nader decides to once again throw his hat into the ring later on in the summer? which he most likely probably will. after what happend in florida back in 2000, can we afford to cast wasted votes on someone like him? not to mention that the majority, albiet a slim majority, of american muslims are african-american and they vote heavily democratic regardless of what thier foreign policy is.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

new hampshire primary was rigged, obama had won. remember bill clinton has enormous influence and power within the democratic party. the only democrat to serve more than one term, since fdr in ww2. how can 8 different polls ALL have been wrong??




some exit polling from the night of the election ...not re-written to match the results yet.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/usa/2008/01/exit_polls_obam...
8:01 pm
Obama 39%
Clinton 34%
Edwards 18%

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/01/exit-poll-...
8:10pm
Sen. Barack Obama: 39%.
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton: 38%.

Clear Evidence Of Widespread Vote Fraud In New Hampshire

Paul and Obama cheated out of 3rd and 1st by voting machines, hand count fraud
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, January 9, 2008

There were several major vote fraud issues to arise out of the New Hampshire primary revolving mainly around Ron Paul and Barack Obama, who were both seemingly cheated out of third and first places respectively as a result of rigged Diebold voting machines and deliberate malfeasance in the counting of hand-written paper ballots.

- Obama had a 13 to 15 point lead over Hillary Clinton heading into the primary. Nothing occured that boosted Hillary's numbers immediately before the election, in fact immediately after the staged crying incident, many pundits argued it could only have harmed her chances. And yet Hillary somehow managed to instigate a near 20 point swing to defeat Obama by three per cent. If not for her 7% swing as a result of Diebold voting machines, Hillary would have lost to Obama. If Obama was struggling he would probably contest this bizarre outcome, but he is likely to accept the results simply to save face.

- The New Hampshire town of Sutton admits that it voided every vote Ron Paul received. The Congressman got 31 votes and yet due to a "human error," Sutton reported zero votes for Ron Paul. How "human error" can explain not counting 31 votes in succession for one single candidate is beyond the pale and Ron Paul's campaign should ask for a recount across New Hampshire immediately.

- As soon as people went public with the fact that their votes in Sutton had not been counted, other districts where Paul had supposedly received zero votes, such as Greenville, suddenly changed their final tallies and attributed votes to the Congressman.

- Going into New Hampshire Ron Paul was polling in the early teens and was a strong bet to take third place behind McCain and Romney. Four days before the vote, Rasmussen had Paul at 14% - a significant lead over Huckabee on 11% and Giuliani on 8% - and yet Ron Paul finished with just 8%. Proof of clear vote fraud, allied with the fact that Paul's numbers show a 6% swing from normally accurate pre-polling forecasts, clearly indicate chicanery was at hand, especially considering the fact that Paul lost those crucial few percentage points to Giuliani as a reuslt of electronic Diebold voting machines which are known to be wide open to tampering and fraud.

- Going purely on hand-counts, which as we saw in Sutton were by no means angelic but at least harder to cheat on than Diebold voting machines without getting caught, Ron Paul would have won 15% of the vote and finished third. This figure would have more accurately correlated to the pre-primary polls rather than the ridiculous 8% he was eventually given.

- Numerous districts reported totals of anything up to 22% for "other candidates". What on earth does this black hole of "other candidates" mean? How can one vote for a candidate that is not on the ballot without spoiling the ballot paper? The district of Lisbon reported 22.5% votes for this mysterious "other" candidate, while in the large district of Londonderry, the "other" candidate received 10%. Many are now alleging that these "other" votes were merely siphoned from Ron Paul to keep his final number low.

- Rudy Giuliani, the 9/11 candidate who beat Ron Paul thanks to the aid of a 3% swing on Diebold voting machines, received 9.11% of the vote in three different towns. Coincidence or somebody's idea of a sick joke?

[displaced]

for every event in history, there's a conspiracy theory.

[GOTFIVEONIT]

Originally Posted by displaced

for every event in history, there's a conspiracy theory.

well its not the first time there were problems with the diebold electronic voting machines. paper ballots are much better. but of course you have people, mossad for example, who believe that america is high and mighty and above that. its only those people, in those countries that vote rigging occurs, it doesnt happen here. let me say living in a city where dead people vote, vote riggin goes on america too. after all, how can 8 polls have all been wrong? come on now. the same thing occured in ohio in the 04' election. john kerry really won ohio, all the exit polls showed this, yet the deibold machines were tampered with.