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dixville:
clinton: 0%
obama: 70%
edwards: 20%
richardson:10%
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is that a black county?
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is that a black county?
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seeing as it's northern nh, it probably has one token black person.
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seeing as it's northern nh, it probably has one token black person.
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did hillary pee on their city hall steps
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is that a black county?
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if you were paying attention to the news coverage, obama is running good with college kids, and that town is a college town.
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01-08-2008, 09:32 PM
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WHAT! 
i really liked him 
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that little crying show she put on the for the cam, worked for the older women who said 'aww poor gal', yet look at the numbers. she barely won by 2% and has a long way to go. she wont win south carolina for sure, and she wont win the national elections in november. do dems want to see the repugs back again for another four years? she is the candidate that they want to run against, because they have a huge amount of trash that they are waiting to throw at her. and repubugs fight dirty, attack ad's upon attack ad's. and hillary clinton on the ticket, will drag out all the repugs out into the polls just out of sheer anger, thats how much they hate her. but obama has some popularity among repugs, almost half of all repugs. and she cannot win the all important independent votes. something obama can capture, and in battleground states they will decide the election.
Clinton and McCain the comeback kids
MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton has won New Hampshire's Democratic primary, CNN projects.
Sen. John McCain easily won the Republican primary Tuesday, but Clinton and Barack Obama were locked in a tight race much of the night.
"Over the last week, I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice," the New York senator told supporters.
"Now together, let's give America the kind of comeback that New Hampshire has just given me."
Clinton held a 2 to 3 point lead over Obama throughout most of the night, despite recent polls showing Obama 9 points ahead of the New York senator.
Supporters at her headquarters chanted "comeback kid" as the results came in.
Clinton's win comes off a disappointing third-place finish in Iowa last week.
Female voters and older voters seem to be playing in Clinton's favor, according to exit polls.
In Iowa, Clinton lost out to Obama among women 35 percent to 30 percent. It's a different story in New Hampshire, where 45 percent of female Democratic primary voters picked Clinton, compared to 36 percent who went for Obama.
Older voters are also overwhelmingly outnumbering younger voters, a proportion that is benefiting Clinton. Sixty-seven percent of Democratic primary voters are over the age of 40, and they are breaking heavily for Clinton over Obama.
The Republican results mark a resurgence for McCain, whose campaign was all but written off this summer.
McCain pinned his win on "one strategy" -- telling the people of New Hampshire what he believes.
"Tonight, we sure showed them what a comeback looks like," the Arizona senator said as supporters shouted, "Mac is back."
"When the pundits declared us finished, I told them, 'I'm going to New Hampshire where the voters don't let you make their decisions for them,' " he said. " 'I'm going to New Hampshire, and I'm going to tell people the truth.' "
With 64 percent of Republican precincts reporting, McCain had 37 percent of the vote. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was second with 32 percent, and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, the winner of last week's Iowa GOP caucuses followed with 11 percent.
Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani had 9 percent and Texas Rep. Ron Paul had 8 percent.
With 68 percent of precincts counted, Clinton had 39 percent of the vote to Iowa caucus winner Obama's 36 percent. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards had 17 percent. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson had 5 percent, and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich had 2 percent.
Edwards will finish third, CNN projects.
Recent polls showed Obama with a 9-point lead over Clinton. Supporters at her headquarters chanted "comeback kid" as the results came in.
Romney and Huckabee called McCain to congratulate him Tuesday night.
"I'll fight to be back in this state and others," Romney told supporters. Watch Romney congratulate McCain »
Huckabee, who earlier said a third-place finish would be "huge" for him, also promised to return to New Hampshire.
"After we secure the nomination, we've got to come back here and make sure we carry New Hampshire."
Voters who supported McCain and those who supported projected runner-up Romney differed significantly on what issues they feel are most important, exit polling shows. Watch McCain's supporters cheer him on »
Forty-six percent of those who supported McCain ranked the war in Iraq the most important. Meanwhile, voters who supported Romney overwhelmingly felt immigration was the most important issue.
McCain has been a staunch supporter of the war in Iraq, but co-sponsored comprehensive immigration reform legislation that drew the ire of many conservatives in his party. The legislation failed to pass Congress. Romney has been taking a tough stance on immigration.
McCain bested one-time Baptist minister Huckabee among New Hampshire voters who said a candidate's religious beliefs matter a great deal, according to CNN exit polls. While Huckabee won overwhelmingly among those voters in Iowa, in New Hampshire, 35 percent went to McCain while 31 percent went to Huckabee.
The religious voters made up 14 percent of all Republican primary voters in New Hampshire -- much less than in Iowa.
Voters turned out in higher-than-expected numbers Tuesday, with a sizable chunk making decisions on who to support at the last minute, according to early exit polls.
Eighteen percent of Republicans and 15 percent of Democrats said they picked their candidate on Election Day.
But the fate of the candidates could rest in the hands of New Hampshire independent voters, who make up about 40 percent of the electorate. A CNN-WMUR poll Sunday found independent voters split almost evenly between the parties this year.
New Hampshire Gov. John Lynch predicted a record turnout for the first-in-the-nation presidential primary. He said he expected half a million people to vote.
The governor's prediction followed record-breaking numbers in last week's Iowa Democratic and Republican caucuses.
New Hampshire Deputy Secretary of State Dave Scanlan said high turnout at polling stations forced the New Hampshire secretary of state's office to send more ballots to some polling locations, including Hampton Falls, Portsmouth, Keene, Hudson and Pelham.
Voting began in two hamlets just after midnight, hours before the rest of the state's polling places opened.
Asked Tuesday afternoon at a doughnut shop in Manchester whether he would consider himself the front-runner if he were to win in New Hampshire, Obama said, "I'm never a front-runner; I'm always the underdog."
Clinton of New York has tried to turn the tide by emphasizing her record as a "change agent," as a senator and as first lady.
She fought tears Monday as she described the stakes in the campaign at a forum with uncommitted voters in Portsmouth, calling it "one of the most important elections America has ever faced."
"This is very personal for me -- it's not just political, it's not just public," she said in response to a question about the stress of the campaign. "I see what's happening, and we have to reverse it."
Former President Clinton lashed out at the media coverage Monday night, saying Obama should be pressed more fully on Iraq and accusing the senator from Illinois of shifting his position to reflect changing attitudes on the war. Watch as the ex-president tears into Obama's record »
"And you took that speech you're now running on off your Web site in 2004. And there's no difference in your voting record and Hillary's ever since."
He added, "Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen."
Obama dismissed the former president's comments, saying "It seems like you guys have been reporting on me the entire year.
"I remember this summer when we were down 20 points, we were getting knocked around pretty good, and I didn't hear the Clinton camp complaining about how terrible the press was."
Meanwhile, Edwards sharpened his criticism of Clinton, blasting her for taking money from the pharmaceutical and defense interests the former trial lawyer routinely excoriates on the stump.
"I've never taken any money -- any money -- from a Washington lobbyist or a special interest PAC. She's continued to do that. She's taken more lobbyist money than any candidate," Edwards said Tuesday in Manchester
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01-08-2008, 10:14 PM
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after tonights primaries it seems its going to be a very tight race in the democratic party in the race for the white house. i think new york will be very tight between obama and hillary. but IL will go obama hands down. we will find out febuary 5th on super tuesday who the nominee will be. im thinking since obama is going to win the IL primary, i think ill vote for the worst repug who couldnt win. ron paul did come to mind, but then i thought lets try and get someone who has the shot at the nomination, but has virtually no chance at winning in november. hmm mccain? well he is a long time senator, he has voted on virtually every issue, and his senate votes will come back to haunt him and can be called a 'flip flopper' the way they attacked kerry with it four years ago.
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ron paul also wants to take money out of the pockets of Egyptians
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You mean he wants to end aid to Egypt. You wouldn't be OK with ending US aid to Egypt (which comes at the price of an American puppet running Egypt) in exchange for ending US aid to Israel?
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and take away birthright citizenship which is how alot of us and our relatives became Americans,
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Did your parents arrive here illegally?
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and he also has a long history of making controversial statements about black people which seems to indicate that he might be racist.
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Cite a source.. the only thing I've seen is the old newsletter thing, which consisted of statements that weren't written by him.
Anyway, he's not a "perfect" candidate. He's just worlds more palatable than pretty much any of the other idiots.
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*This just in about Ron Paul:
IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- Denying Muslim Visas
Sh**. Ron Paul was the only one who I would actually vote for. I guess Obama is our only choice now.
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That editorial is comically bad. The way it tries to impose its views onto Ron Paul is really funny. The IBD's Zionist stance shines through.
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Paul, a congressman from south Texas, also proposes ending "birthright citizenship," which allows the children of Middle Eastern and other illegal immigrants to stay in America. Such anchor babies now include the offspring of jailed or deported terrorists.
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He proposes ending birthright citizenship, full stop. The article then goes on to add its own perspective on the matter, which is dumb and shortsighted.
Note that this rabidly Zionist publication also specifically states that it "doesn't agree with Ron Paul on many of his positions."
Yeah, there's a reason Ron Paul gets accused of being an "anti-semite" .. 
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Hillary & Giuliani are the two candidates I despise most. Anyone but either of them. I'm bummed she's potentially making a comeback. Not that Obama's much better.
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You mean he wants to end aid to Egypt. You wouldn't be OK with ending US aid to Egypt (which comes at the price of an American puppet running Egypt) in exchange for ending US aid to Israel?
Did your parents arrive here illegally?
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alot of that aid though does goto help the poor farmers of egypt and they desperatly could use that aid. alot of the foreign aid does goto pakistan too. but what mossad pointed out, is that under the u.s. laws we are automatically citizens by birth. that law was enacted after the civil war to ensure that blacks would have full citizenship under the law. after all look at the jim crow laws that followed. and even though barack obama, is half white, which many people dont know, his father is from kenya. when he was running for senator four years ago, the IL GOP got alan keyes of all people to run against Obama for the open senate seat. This dummy was demanding that citizenship tests be given to people who are the sons and daughters of immigrants, in an cheap attack against Obama, because his father was from kenya, regardless of the fact his mother was a white american woman from kansas.
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but if you want to send a message to both the dems and the repugs, vote for ron paul. let them know that even though the numbers show that Muslims vote in LARGE numbers vs. most of the american population, and that we usually vote as a block, that they cannot take our votes for granted. in India, the secular parties for years have played off Muslim voters like this. i should say for decades. even Bush managed to split the arab-american vote in all important MIchigan, by appealing to the Iraqi shia's and the assyiran christians who are just fanatical about him.
and one can argue that their is no real difference between either of the two major parties, that both the dems and the repugs are the same when it comes to Muslim issues. Just one is more honest than the other. The Parties of India play this game too when it comes to Muslims over there. every four years some politican desperatly needing votes, will come around pander to the Muslims, and make promises he really doesnt mean. Bush himself came to Michigan in 2000 and said 'the U.S. should be more receptive to arab views', and look what kind of monster he turned out to be for us.
but if you truley dont want to see the repugs back in the white house, the democrats have to nominate a candidate who can beat a repug in november. a candidate who can take on a repug in the republican party heartland in the south, and in all important Ohio. a candidate who can get independent voters to swing thier votes thier way and away from the repugs, in the all important battleground states that i listed in previous posts. because thats how this election is going to be decided.
and i honestly dont think hillary can beat a repug in november. she is the democrat that the repugs want to represent for thier party in november, because the republican attack machine is full set and gear to get her, and get her good. they have always hated this woman with a deep passion and they feel they can beat her. while all the political pundits are saying that obama is a republicans worst nightmare. i say this because in 04' the democrats had someone who could have beaten bush in the novemeber elections and that was a former general Wesely Clark. He himself stated that the 04' election will be about 'national security' and he was right! one political pundit even wrote he is "karl rove's (Dubya's campaign manager) worst nightmare". This guy would have beaten bush, and he would have stolen republican votes away from bush. instead the idoit democrats went with kerry and played right into the GOP's plan. he was the man that they wanted dubya to run against, the day after he won the primaries, the RNC chairman held a press conference standing over volumes of volumes kerry's voting record in the senate. and if the democrats make the same mistake again and vote for hillary to be on the ballot in november, the same GOP attack dogs will be on her, and they will get her and get her good in battleground states, such as Ohio, kentucky, arkansas (believe it or not), tennesee, virginia and west virginia.
Not only that, your average repug hates hillary. they cannot stand this woman with a passion. i was a republican once, for many years. i still am opposed to anti-male feminist propoganda, i still am opposed to abortion, i dont believe in affirmative action, I am practically a social conservative. I even support school vouchers! i used to listen to rush limbaugh all the time, i know exactly how much they despise this woman.
and if hillary is on that ballot for the democrats in november... watch out! you will only inspire all the repugs, many of whom are like myself dissaffected or disatisfied with this christian zionist/neo-con hijacking of the party, and those people would otherwise sit home on election night in november, will come out in droves out of fear of a hillary clinton white house. already john mccain is running ad's scaring the apathetic GOP voters of a hillary-run white house. and if divorced men, and all those men stuck paying alimony think they have it bad now, imagine the queen of the feminazis at the helm with all the power in her hands? that's all i gotta say.
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Hillary & Giuliani are the two candidates I despise most. Anyone but either of them. I'm bummed she's potentially making a comeback. Not that Obama's much better.
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true, but at least obama isnt a repug, and he can beat them in november. that's something the dems should look at, or im gonna start calling them 'dummycrats' from now on.
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and as far as the repugs are concerned, i hope mccain is thier nominee. he is a long time serving senator, and his loooooooong senate voting record will come back to haunt him in the fall, when the general election season kicks off after labor day. no senator who has tried to run for prez, has won an election since 1960, the propel john kennedy to the white house. the fact that you have two senators duking it out on the democratic side isnt good news either. and thats going to be a tough race up until super tuesday on feb. 5th. as far as concerned, al | |