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Obama Moves Ahead In Delegate Count

Cnn Delegate Count

Obama - 1,170

Hillary 1,168

Obama Lead's Hillary By Two Delegates For The Party Nomination.

2,025 Delegate Votes Needed To Win The Democratic Party Nomination.
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Hey, Huckabee is the Christian Right's favourite, right?
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Hey, Huckabee is the Christian Right's favourite, right?

you got it! huckabee is a former baptist preacher outta arkansas in fact. btw, obama is speaking right now up in madison, wisconsin, the state capital, at the university of wisconsin. you can watch it here. CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News
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i just want to say, after listening to hillary's stupid dumb speech tonite in texas, where she is desperate for a win there in the march 4th primary, i noticed how she is trying hard to sound more and more like barak obama hahaha. i also find it hilarious that her deputy campaign chairman 'resigned' today, try more like fired, just like her campaign manager hahaha thats when you know she is in trouble.

and in all the exit polls shown tonite in maryland, women bolted for barak obama 59%! 59% of all women voters in maryland's primary voted for obama.

OBAMA SWEEPS DEMOCRATIC 'POTOMIC PRIMARY', OBAMA NIGHT!



Obama, McCain ride momentum of Virginia, Maryland, D.C. wins

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- NEW: Obama, McCain win Maryland and Virginia, CNN projects
- NEW: Maryland polls stayed open longer because of poor weather
- High turnout reported in Virginia, Maryland, District of Columbia
- 238 Democratic delegates, 113 total GOP delegates at stake
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama will claim victory in Maryland and Virginia, CNN projects.

Sen. John McCain narrowly edged out Mike Huckabee in Virginia, according to CNN projections.

Obama had a substantial lead over Hillary Clinton in Virginia, and McCain was ahead of Mike Huckabee by about 7 points, according to CNN projections.

Polls in Maryland were supposed to close at 8 p.m. ET, but a judge extended voting for an extra 90 minutes due to icy roads and heavy turnout.

Polls in the District of Columbia closed at 8 p.m., but no results were available yet.

Obama's wins give him more delegates than Clinton for the first time since the Iowa caucuses. According to CNN calculations, Obama has 1,181 delegates to Clinton's 1,173.

To clinch the Democratic nomination, a candidate must get 2,025 delegates.

Obama had led in pledged delegates, but Clinton had held the lead when superdelegates were factored in.

Superdelegates, a group of almost 800 Democratic Party officials and leaders, are not required to make their votes public and are free to change their minds.

McCain is leading Huckabee 796 to 217 in total delegates, according to CNN estimates. A GOP candidate needs 1,191 delegates to secure the nomination.

In Virginia, Obama led Clinton 63-36 percent, with about 80 percent of the precincts reporting.

McCain had 49 percent to Huckabee's 42 percent.

Obama also finished ahead of Clinton in all five of the Democratic contests last weekend.

Voters are participating in the so-called "Potomac primaries" -- named for the river that separates Virginia and Maryland and flows past the nation's capital.

Conservative voter turnout was high in Virginia, helping Huckabee there, exit polls showed.

Evangelical voters made up more than 40 percent of the electorate and were breaking for Huckabee nearly 3 to 1 over McCain, exit polls showed.

In 2000, 55 percent of Virginia GOP voters identified themselves as conservative. This year, those voters made up 68 percent of the electorate, and they were breaking for Huckabee over McCain by 16 percentage points.

In Maryland, turnout was anticipated to be about 40 percent, which is above normal according to Ross Goldstein, deputy administrator for the state's Board of Elections.

However, Goldstein said some anticipated inclement weather later in the day could lower turnout numbers.

Virginia election officials also predicted a higher than normal turnout of 30 to 40 percent for the state's primaries.

High turnout was reported in the northern part of the state and in Richmond and Charlottesville, according to Virginia Board of Elections spokeswoman Susan Pollard.

There were reports of 45-minute lines in counties around Richmond, she said.

Mark Coakley, the general register for Henrico County said the turnout in his Richmond-area county was record breaking.

"It's our first ever-dual primary so regardless it would be record breaking," he said.

At an Alexandria, Virginia, polling station, election officials said they were seeing a steady turnout.

"We're getting good, consistent turnout. We started out with over 20 people at the gate when we opened up the doors at 6 a.m.," election official Chris Tatem said. "We're averaging maybe a hundred an hour of people that push through here, which is good."

At around 1 p.m. Tuesday, the polling station's precinct chief Tom Fina said, "We're almost at the same level as we were last year for the Virginia elections."

"Today with almost 700 votes before the day is much more than half over, we are running considerably ahead of the past experience that we've had," he said.

High winds swept through the state on Sunday and Monday knocking out power in some areas and forcing some polling stations to relocate. The storms knocked out power to 50 stations, election officials said, but power had been restored to all but eight of them. Generators were used to restore power at some locations.

District election officials did not give an estimate of overall turnout, but two precincts in Washington ran out of ballots, according to Bill O'Field, a spokesman for the District Board of Elections.

Several other precincts had to have more ballots delivered due to higher-than-expected turnout.

The demographics in Tuesday's primaries suggest Obama could pull off a political hat trick over Clinton. However, the senator from New York said Obama's recent success doesn't faze her because future primaries will swing her way.

The devil is in the demographics for Democrats. Maryland, Virginia and especially the District of Columbia have large numbers of African-American and affluent white voters. Obama has fared well in the past with both groups.

Previous exit polls indicate Obama also has done well with independents voting in Democratic contests, and Virginia's open primary permits independents to cast ballots for either party.

In the Republican race, the question is whether McCain can start to unify the Republican party behind his all-but-certain nomination.

Huckabee is coming off a big win Saturday in Kansas, where he won by double digits, and another narrower win in Louisiana.

McCain edged out the former Arkansas governor in the Washington caucuses, but Huckabee is questioning the result.

Huckabee has done well with Christian conservatives and rural voters, and McCain's performance last weekend suggests the GOP, particularly conservative voters, are not quite ready to unite behind him.

McCain, however, scoffed at the notion that the former Arkansas governor could close the over 500-delegate gap that separates the two GOP contenders.

"We are doing fine. We have 700 and some -- close to 800 delegates, and the last time I checked Gov. Huckabee has very few," McCain said.

"So I think I am pretty happy with the situation that we are in." He said Tuesday he was "guardedly optimistic" about the Potomac primaries.
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OBAMA LEADS HILLARY IN THE DELEGATE COUNT TOWARDS THE 2.025 DELEGATES NEEDED TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOMINATION.



Obama

1,195



Clinton

1,178

hillary clinton is in big huge trouble. she is going to turn into another guiliani, and obama is set to sweep all the febuary primaries. according to analysts on the 24 hour news channels, that the by the time the march primaries start, obama will have such huge M.O.M.E.N.T.U.M. that the march 4th states of texas, vermont, and ohio, where hillary holds a small lead in the polls will shrivel up.

and looking at the big numbers that obama has been beating her in the states since this past weekend primaries, that same scenario could play out in those states too, in the manner similar to what propeled mccain to the front runner, and left guiliani in the dust for skipping the january primaries.
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you got it! huckabee is a former baptist preacher outta arkansas in fact. btw, obama is speaking right now up in madison, wisconsin, the state capital, at the university of wisconsin. you can watch it here. CNN.com - Breaking News, U.S., World, Weather, Entertainment & Video News
Okay thanks. I read somewhere that the race between McCain and this Huckabee guy is pretty close. Is that true?
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Okay thanks. I read somewhere that the race between McCain and this Huckabee guy is pretty close. Is that true?
Nope. mccain is very far ahead now; and huckabee will likely drop out soon.

The race between Obama and Clinton, however, is sizzling spicier than nehari.
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Nope. mccain is very far ahead now; and huckabee will likely drop out soon.

The race between Obama and Clinton, however, is sizzling spicier than nehari.
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I see. Danke schon.

well dont count huckabee out yet. he could still pick up romney's 200+ delegates, if romney is willing to offer it to him, and then make the race even closer. that's something that i was thinking about, even if the national media refuses to discuss this possibility.


*** Revised ****

Total delegates include pledged delegate and superdelegate estimates.

Pledged Delegates: delegates won through public voting

Super-delegates: Senior party members, i.e. senators, governors, congressman, judges, former democratic party presidents jimmy carter and bill clinton.

TOTAL DELEGATES



Barack Obama
Pledged: 1052
Superdelegates: 156

Total: 1,208



Hillary Clinton
Pledged: 951
Superdelegates: 234

Total: 1,185

Obama lead's Hillary by 23 delegates, making him the new front-runner.
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If CNN's analysis was correct, they said that even if Obama wins EVERY state left with a 55 to 45 margin, he still wouldn't have the 2025 delegates needed. So what that basically tells me is that the super delegates are gonna be deciding the democratic nominee. If so, that kinda sucks.
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If CNN's analysis was correct, they said that even if Obama wins EVERY state left with a 55 to 45 margin, he still wouldn't have the 2025 delegates needed. So what that basically tells me is that the super delegates are gonna be deciding the democratic nominee. If so, that kinda sucks.
Is it possible for the superdelegates to make some kind of compromise, like making Obama presidential nominee, and Hilary as VP nominee? Would that even work, and be an electable combination?
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Is it possible for the superdelegates to make some kind of compromise, like making Obama presidential nominee, and Hilary as VP nominee? Would that even work, and be an electable combination?
i dont think hillary will accept being vp, nor does he need her. edwards is trying to play political king maker and is holding on to his 26 delegates, to get the vp nod for himself. it wouldnt be a bad idea, given that he is a southern white. but he is just one of many southern white men that could be a possible obama vp candidate. historically whenever a northerner like obama ran, he would need a southern vp candidate. for example, kennedy and lbj.

but as far as the super delegates are concerned. there are a total of 800 super delegates. so far not even half have chosen sides yet. so we have no idea what the other half is going to do. they are probably just waiting to see who gets the most delegates and then cast thier lot with that person. and run it looks like its in obama's favor.

but to use a star trek analogy (LOL), when worf killed gowron and made general martok chancellor, he said 'kaylus (the great klingon sage) once said "GREAT MEN DONT SEEK POWER.... ITS THRUSTED UPON THEM!"

**** DELEGATE UPDATE *****



Obama

1,215



Clinton

1,190

OBAMA LEADS HILLARY BY 25 DELEGATES!

98% Precincts Reporting
DC

Obama 75%

Clinton 24%

80% Precincts Reporting
MARYLAND

Obama 61%

Clinton 36%

VIRGINIA
99% Precincts Reporting

Obama

64%

Clinton

35%
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"Men without hope, resigned to despair and oppression, do not make revolutions. It is when expectation replaces submission, when despair is touched with the awareness of possibility, that the forces of human desire and the passion for justice are unloosed."

"There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not."

are these the words of senator obama?





NO, they are the words of Robert F. Kennedy during his presidential bid in 1968!
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From what I read in the WSJ earlier Hilary is projected to win Texas and Ohio. I think it's still too early to tell who will win...

Obama faces fire from Clinton, McCain - CNN.com
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From what I read in the WSJ earlier Hilary is projected to win Texas and Ohio. I think it's still too early to tell who will win...

Obama faces fire from Clinton, McCain - CNN.com
well the polls have been showing that, but they showed the same thing for guiliania. and look where he ended up. in fact by losing all the feb states, she risks losing momentum and could end up just like guiliani did, when he skipped the jan. primaries.