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Nbc News Declares Obama The Projected Winner In The Maine Democratic Caucuses!

Obama Sweeps All The Weekend Democratic Party Primaries!
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Sen. Barack Obama greets supporters before a rally Sunday in Alexandria, Virginia.

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- Maryland, the District of Columbia and Virginia hold primaries Tuesday

- With a Maine win, Obama sweeps weekend's presidential contests

- Clinton shakes up her campaign Sunday by replacing her campaign manager
"It's hard to see a win for Sen. Clinton into March," says former Edwards adviser

updated 48 minutes ago

Obama rolls into Potomac primaries after weekend sweep

(CNN) -- Illinois Sen. Barack Obama carries momentum from a sweep of weekend contests into this week's primaries in Maryland, the District of Columbia and Virginia.

Sen. Barack Obama greets supporters before a rally Sunday in Alexandria, Virginia.

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, is coming off a campaign shake-up, while her advisers are seeking to lower expectations for this month's Democratic contests.

Obama came out ahead in Sunday's Democratic caucuses in Maine after wins in Saturday's Louisiana primary and Democratic caucuses in Nebraska, Washington and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

With 99 percent of precincts reporting in Maine, Obama was leading Clinton 59 percent to 40 percent. At stake are 24 delegates to August's Democratic national convention in Denver.

Those contests gave him a lead over Clinton in pledged delegates to the convention, but Clinton still held a narrow edge over Obama when "superdelegates" -- elected officials and party leaders -- are included in the tally, according to CNN estimates.

After Saturday's results and a split decision in last week's Super Tuesday contests, Clinton shook up her campaign Sunday by replacing campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle with longtime adviser Maggie Williams, her campaign announced Sunday.

Clinton aides admit this month's remaining Democratic contests may favor Obama, but they plan to focus on a larger cache of delegates up for grabs in March.

"Although the next several states that hold nominating contests this month are more favorable to the Obama campaign, we will continue to compete in them and hope to secure as many delegates as we can before the race turns to Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania," read a statement from Clinton's campaign.

Those states have high concentrations of voters who have been strong Clinton supporters -- Latinos in Texas and blue-collar workers in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

But Joe Trippi, an adviser to former Democratic contender John Edwards, said Sunday that Obama had "a full head of steam" after Saturday's wins and was poised to win the Potomac contests.

"It's hard to see a win for Sen. Clinton into March, into Ohio and Texas, which I think was what they're counting on," Trippi told CBS' "Face the Nation." "But even that's in jeopardy, I think, as Obama builds some momentum here."

On Tuesday, Clinton and Obama will be competing for 15 pledged delegates in Washington, D.C.; 70 in Maryland; and 83 in Virginia.

Both candidates tipped their hats to the state's Democratic brass on Saturday night by jetting into Richmond for the Virginia Democratic Party's annual Jefferson-Jackson fundraising dinner.

"We won north, we won south, we won in-between," Obama said. "And I believe that we can win in Virginia on Tuesday if you're ready to stand for change."

Clinton's remarks focused on the economic themes that have characterized her recent stump speeches.

"I am so ready to see Virginia in the winning Democratic column in November," Clinton told the audience.

Obama also beat two former Democratic presidents to win a Grammy award on Sunday night.

His recording of his book, "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream," took the recording academy's award for best spoken word album -- topping former presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.
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National Delegate Count Tally

by FOXNews.com
Sunday, February 10, 2008


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States allocating pledged delegates to date:

Iowa, Wyoming (GOP), New Hampshire, Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida, Maine, Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho (Democratic), Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana (GOP), New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia (GOP), Kansas (GOP), Nebraska (Democratic), Washington, Louisiana
NOTE: Totals may not include 100 percent of delegates available in voting states. Last updated at 7:15 p.m. ET, Sunday Feb. 10, 2008

Source: The Associated Press


Democratic Delegates (2,025 needed to win nomination)

Candidate & # of Delegates

Hillary Clinton - 1,127
John Edwards - 26
Mike Gravel - 0
Barack Obama - 1,093

Total 2,246

Obama only down by 34 delegates

Election Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com

TOTAL DELEGATES

Hillary Clinton
Pledged: 924
Superdelegates: 224

Total: 1,148

Barack Obama
Pledged: 986
Superdelegates: 135

Total: 1,121

So Obama is only down by 27 delegates, even though he beats Hillary in the pledged delegates, by 62 delegates, meaning the delegates won through public voting. but because of party machinary, hillary gets more superdelegates, which is completely b.s. and unbelievable.

like obama said, if your gonna have 'superdelegates', then they should vote according to who won their state, and in that count obama beats hillary too by 6 states. obama so far has won 19 states, while hillary has only won 13 states, mostly bigger populated states like new york and california.

superdelegates are comprised of senior party members, such as elected officials, judges, senators, and even former presidents,which are jimmy carter and bill clinton. lbj has long been dead and we all know what happend to kennedy.
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I think im gonna vote for Hilary.
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I think im gonna vote for Hilary.
What about Obama? You're letting homeboy down by voting for ol' whitey.
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I think im gonna vote for Hilary.
Who's just a female version of Bush.
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they called him mike mccain instead of john mccain
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Who's just a female version of Bush.
Well im voting democrat. ...so that only leaves Obama and Hilary.....and there not that much different from one another, politically speaking...so really its a toss up and right now im leaning towards hilary


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What about Obama? You're letting homeboy down by voting for ol' whitey.
hahahahah Obama...hes a great speaker...and if he acknowldege that at one point he was muslim or colored.... I'd be inclined to vote for him. Instead in my personal opinion hes more anti-muslim
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TONITE'S BIG NUMBER ON MSNBC'S 'HARDBALL WITH CHRIS MATHEWS':

BY THE YEAR 2025

1 IN 7 CITIZENS IN THE UNITED STATES WILL BE FOREIGN BORN!

by the way, i love how cnn is calling it the 'ballot bowl', like its the super bowl, or a college bowl, i.e. the cotton bowl, rose bowl, apple bowl, orange bowl etc.



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- Obama holds lead in delegates won in primaries and caucuses

- Clinton leads when superdelegates factored in

- GOP front-runner John McCain has a comfortable lead over Mike Huckabee

- 2,025 delegates needed for Democratic nomination; 1,191 needed for Republican
updated 1 hour, 28 minutes ago

Superdelegates give Clinton narrow lead

By Robert Yoon and Keating Holland
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(CNN) --
A string of recent victories and endorsements from key party insiders have Democratic presidential hopefuls Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton running neck-and-neck in the increasingly important battle for delegates.

Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are running a tight race for Democratic delegates.

1 of 3 Clinton holds a narrow 27-delegate lead over Obama, 1,148 to 1,121, down from her lead of more than 100 delegates a month ago, according to CNN's estimate.

A candidate must secure the support of 2,025 delegates to clinch the Democratic presidential nomination.

In the Republican race, Arizona Sen. John McCain maintains a comfortable lead in delegates over his main rival Mike Huckabee, despite the former Arkansas governor's wins Saturday in Kansas and Louisiana and a strong showing in Washington state.

Obama's surge in delegates is due primarily to his electoral victories on Super Tuesday and in contests held over the weekend, including Sunday's Democratic caucuses in Maine, which he won by a comfortable margin.

The first-term Illinois senator won at least 923 delegates from those contests, compared with at least 876 delegates for Clinton, according to CNN's analysis of voting results.

Another 67 delegates from those races still remain unallocated in areas with particularly tight vote results or local delays in vote-counting. But 60 of those slots are in states Obama won, which may give him the edge as these remaining delegates are allocated.

Overall, Obama has won 986 delegates from contests this year, compared to 924 for Clinton.

CNN's delegate estimate includes both delegates won in primaries and caucuses as well as preferences of so-called "superdelegates," a group of almost 800 Democratic party officials and leaders who also will cast votes at the nominating convention this summer. Watch superdelegates weigh in on their role in the race »

Because superdelegates are not required to make their presidential preferences public and are free to change their minds, it is difficult to pinpoint the exact number of superdelegate supporters either candidate has at any given time.

CNN estimates, however, that Clinton has the support of at least 224 superdelegates compared with at least 135 superdelegates for Obama, according to an ongoing survey. The remaining 400 or so superdelegates either remain neutral, undecided or have not publicly revealed their preferences.

Though Clinton appears to hold a sizable lead among these Democratic officials, Obama has scored a series of high-profile superdelegate endorsements in recent weeks, including nods from Sens. Ted Kennedy and John Kerry of Massachusetts.

Democratic superdelegate Sam Spencer said he's not entirely comfortable with the decisive role superdelegates could play in this election.

"I think the best people to decide who our nominee should be ... should be actual voters in primaries and caucuses," Spencer said on CNN's "American Morning." "I think superdelegates are somewhat outdated, and it's not the most democratic way of doing things."

Nancy Larson, another Democratic superdelegate, said she hopes a decision gets made "before we have to step in."

"They never anticipated that we would have two superstars locked in a dead heat, so I think there is no playbook for this," she said.

On the Republican side, McCain leads the shrinking GOP field with 723 delegates to 217 for Huckabee and 16 for Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney suspended his campaign after Super Tuesday, but still retains the 286 delegates he won in primaries and caucuses.

Though the national Republican Party does not have superdelegates, 123 members of the Republican National Committee are free to vote for any candidate at the GOP convention this summer in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Of those, 26 support McCain and three support Huckabee.

A total of 1,191 delegates are needed to win the GOP presidential nomination.
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For an example of just how Bush and the neocons have rubbed lots of republicans the wrong way, look no further than my dad. He used to hold republican parties in our home, voted republican in every election since he could vote. Last week I called him up to ask him how he was going to vote, I was SURE he would say Romney, but lo and behold, Obama was the only thing he talked about. I was like Bush and friends, you REALLY screwed up BIG TIME if you got MY DAD to jump the Republican party ship.
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hahahahah Obama...hes a great speaker...and if he acknowldege that at one point he was muslim or colored.... I'd be inclined to vote for him. Instead in my personal opinion hes more anti-muslim
Interesting. I know he has partly-Muslim heritage but thought he was a church-going Christian.

Also, I'm curious, is "colored" not an offensive term in the US?
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I think im gonna vote for Hilary.
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i think we already had our primary

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PS: Hillary did alot for New York. She brought billions of dollars in federal money to New York City and worked hard on the behalf of all the farmers and city residents in the depressed parts of upstate New York, and has been a big supporter of the revival of Buffalo. I like Obama more than her, but if she wins the nomination I would definitely vote for her out of NY loyalty
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hahahahah Obama...hes a great speaker...and if he acknowldege that at one point he was muslim or colored.... I'd be inclined to vote for him. Instead in my personal opinion hes more anti-muslim
But he's not Muslim. And he's running for president... not 'black president'. I think he knows what color he is, the fact he hasn't been riding that says something positive.
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they called him mike mccain instead of john mccain
LOLL the irony is this paper is published outta new york city haha. i only read the headline, and that was a toughy in itself. especially making out the name hillary clinton, when i pronounced it out slooooowly, it sounded hallary cleentown LOL. i didnt real the whole thing though since im self-taught and i can only read urdu on a 6th grade level, but im gonna look for that mistake.

but i just finished the paragraph, lol ya in the last line they call him mike mccain lol.

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