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Giuliani Official Advocates Ethnic Cleansing
by pontificator
Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 01:42:13 PM PST
Unless you've been in a cave the last few hours (har har), you've probably seen that John Deady, the co-chair of state Veterans for Rudy, an official member of Rudolph Giuliani's campaign, has made an [ahem] controversial statement regarding Muslims.

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"[Rudy's] got I believe the knowledge and the judgement to attack one of the most difficult problems in current history and that is the rise of the Muslims, and make no mistake about it, this hasn't happened for a thousand years. These people are very dedicated and they're also very very smart in their own way. We need to keep the feet to the fire and keep pressing these people until we defeat or chase them back to their caves or in other words get rid of them."
That is nothing short of an endorsement of ethnic cleansing, and perhaps even genocide, of Muslims.

But perhaps, you might think, it was a mistake. Perhaps Mr. Deady misspoke, or was quoted out of context?

No.

Greg Sargent just interviewed the guy. He is John Deady, the co-chair of Veterans for Rudy in New Hampshire, and he is not backing off his original comments, telling Greg: "I don't subscribe to the principle that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They're all Muslims."
This guy needs to be fired. Immediately. If he's not fired before the start of the evening news tonight, then the Giuliani campaign, and Giuliani himself, will have endorsed a policy of ethnic cleansing of Muslims.

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Just saw the video of the guy saying it on fauxnews. Seriously, the guy sounds like a Hitler-supporter.

"there aren't good Muslims and bad Muslims. They're just Muslims who need to be chased back to their caves"


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what is the world coming to.

i hate the news. hate watching it. reading it. i always feel let down, torn between two cultures and a whole bunch of disappointment
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what is the world coming to.

i hate the news. hate watching it. reading it. i always feel let down, torn between two cultures and a whole bunch of disappointment
I agree. I'm trying to stop following the news as much. However, someone told me that we shouldn't turn our backs to events in the world.

I'm just going to catch the headlines on yahoo and that will be it.
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Word on the street is that he's resigned.
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Guiliani sucks anyways. Ron Paul for President!
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I do not think this is something to fuss over. This guy's opinion represents a fraction of most Americans who are tolerant once they get to know you as a person. Overall, Guliani do not have a chance of becoming president. I think he is one of the weakest candidate amongst the Republicans.
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I do not think this is something to fuss over. This guy's opinion represents a fraction of most Americans who are tolerant once they get to know you as a person. Overall, Guliani do not have a chance of becoming president. I think he is one of the weakest candidate amongst the Republicans.
The Republicans seem to be playing off of anti-Muslim fears. Mitt Romney already openly stated that he wouldn't have a Muslim on his cabinet. Tancredo said he wanted to bomb Makkah. These are some shocking trends. America seems to be brinking closer to fascism with Muslims as the target.

Also, the issue is why the media chose not to report this, given the extremely caustic nature of the statements. Had it been Muslims, it would have been on the front page of every newspaper.
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clip: Rudy Campaign Official: Only Rudy Can Defeat the Muslims (0:49)

full clip at: Video: True Giuliani (4:24)
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The Republicans seem to be playing off of anti-Muslim fears. Mitt Romney already openly stated that he wouldn't have a Muslim on his cabinet. Tancredo said he wanted to bomb Makkah. These are some shocking trends. America seems to be brinking closer to fascism with Muslims as the target.

Also, the issue is why the media chose not to report this, given the extremely caustic nature of the statements. Had it been Muslims, it would have been on the front page of every newspaper.

True. And Giuliani critisizes those who don't associate Islam with terrorism.



This makes me wonder. What would happen if America (the large majority) viewed Islam as the enemy of America?
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This makes me wonder. What would happen if America (the large majority) viewed Islam as the enemy of America?
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So is it really true about the Ottoman Turks getting pwned at the Battle of Vienna by a smaller Christian force. I know it's off-topic but it was being discussed in the comments section of the article posted.
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So is it really true about the Ottoman Turks getting pwned at the Battle of Vienna by a smaller Christian force. I know it's off-topic but it was being discussed in the comments section of the article posted.
The Ottomans got their butts kicked several times. I believe Lepanto preceded Vienna.
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