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'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
An inmate at the US detention centre in Guantanamo Bay slashed his throat with a sharpened fingernail, US officials have confirmed.
The prisoner, described by his lawyer as an Algerian held for six years, required several stitches and spent a week under psychiatric observation.
US officials characterised the incident as an act of "self-harm" rather than a suicide attempt.
There are just over 300 prisoners still being held in the base in Cuba.
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The latest incident reportedly took place last month in a shower.
US Navy Cmdr Andrew Haynes said there was "an impressive effusion of blood" but the prisoner was treated by guards and taken to the prison clinic.
Officials would give no details of the man but lawyer Zachary Katznelson said the inmate had been held without charge for nearly six years.
Cmdr Haynes said "self-harm" incidents were a tactic to discredit US forces.
There have been four suicides at the camp.
Two Saudis and a Yemeni prisoner were found hanged in June last year.
This May another Saudi was found not breathing in his cell and attempts to revive him failed.
Co-ordinated suicide attempts last May involving hoarded medicine led to tighter rules on the dispensation of pills.
On Wednesday the US Supreme Court is to hold a hearing on whether the inmates at Guantanamo Bay have the right to contest their detention in US civilian courts.
BBC NEWS | Americas | 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
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Re: 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
DO they show Oz in Gitmo?
Tobias Beecher sharpened his fingernails to kill the one Nazi guard.
IN all seriousness poor guy...its gotta be hard to remain sane in Prison. Eventually people get out and have to return to society...i don't think enough is ever done to prepare for thihs..especially in Gitmo.
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Re: 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
Personally, I think there's another side to this story that we don't know about. For example, those inmates last year who "hanged themselves". How do we know they were not killed by the guards and they're trying to cover it up? After all, Bush won't allow detainees to say what goes on in there because he doesn't want "important information leaked". Those guards can do whatever they want to the prisoners and the detainees can't do anything to help themselves.
Allah (SWT) is swift in punishment so the oppressors will have their reward in the end.
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Re: 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
oh but to hear "culture warrior" bill oreilly put it, the place is an amusment park.
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Re: 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
assalmu alaykum
 May Allah swt grant patience, ease and jannah to all the imprisoned and oppressed people in the world... ameen.
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Re: 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
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assalmu alaykum
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Ameen.
Insha'Allah. I'd read in a article before how some of the Prisoners were asking the Ulema if they had the permission to commit suicide. May Allah azza wa jal punish the oppressors and never give them any ease for what they do to others, in this dunya and the akhira.
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Ameen.
Insha'Allah. I'd read in a article before how some of the Prisoners were asking the Ulema if they had the permission to commit suicide. May Allah azza wa jal punish the oppressors and never give them any ease for what they do to others, in this dunya and the akhira.
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Hem, did this article of yours reveal if permission was given?
Do suicide bombers get the go ahead? |
12-18-2007, 10:24 AM
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Hem, did this article of yours reveal if permission was given?
Do suicide bombers get the go ahead?
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Hi Roberto. Welcome back. 
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Re: 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
You know if you're not going to do anything about it you should keep schtum. If you can't do anything to alleviate someone's problem why do you need to know about it?
I really don't know why God allows America to cause people to suffer like this, actually I do.
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Hem, did this article of yours reveal if permission was given?
Do suicide bombers get the go ahead?
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To answer your actual questions, no permission was not given. The type of suicide, where a person wants to alleviate pain or suffering is not allowed.
However, there is a difference between commiting suicice for personal gain and doing it for a cause. And thats where the Scholars have a difference of opinion.'
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You know if you're not going to do anything about it you should keep schtum. If you can't do anything to alleviate someone's problem why do you need to know about it?
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I disagree. Atleast it is better then staying ignorant about issues. Atleast you can make Dua and just maybe there might come a chance that you may have the oppurtunity to do something about it later on in your life.
And in this issue, you can do something about it. I personally believe that there is always something you can do. And in this case, there is always Dua, or you could write to the detainees or make other people aware of them suffering, etc.
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I would report you as spam, but I'm thinking you're Swiper 6.
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Re: 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
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DO they show Oz in Gitmo?
Tobias Beecher sharpened his fingernails to kill the one Nazi guard.
IN all seriousness poor guy...its gotta be hard to remain sane in Prison. Eventually people get out and have to return to society...i don't think enough is ever done to prepare for thihs..especially in Gitmo.
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Dude how ironic, i've been watching Oz all day today. lol. Karim Syed is awesome! |
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Ameen.
Insha'Allah. I'd read in a article before how some of the Prisoners were asking the Ulema if they had the permission to commit suicide. May Allah azza wa jal punish the oppressors and never give them any ease for what they do to others, in this dunya and the akhira.
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Re: 'Fingernail slash' at Guantanamo
It's to bad that Guantanamo has become associated with this shamefulness. It's a pretty beautiful place I hear, there are a lot of songs written about it and the awesome people from there. I'm looking forward to visiting someday soon.
Hopefully the detention facility will be shut down asap.
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I am being ignored by one of my caucasian friend/classmate who happens to be a military person and a pro Mr. Bush your face is gorgeous and stuff after I added "Guantanamo" as a cause at my facebook account.  this eliminiates another bad apple from my basket of friendly apples.. 
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