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Saturday, 10 November 2007

Los Angeles, November 10:
The Los Angeles Police Department's anti-terrorism bureau is planning to create a map on Muslims communities in the city to fight radicalization and ghettoization, drawing immediate fire from rights and Muslim advocacy groups for racial profiling the sizable minority.

"There are people out there who believe in extreme violent ideology who present a threat to the American people, and that is what we are trying to prevent," Michael P. Downing, a deputy Los Angeles police chief who heads the counterterrorism bureau, told.

"This could be called another prevention strategy." Downing said mapping the Muslim communities would enable police to study their culture, history, language and socioeconomic status to better understand them. If a community is isolated, it may be determined that it is susceptible to extremist ideology, he said. "We are seeking to identify at-risk communities," Downing told the paper.

"We are looking for communities and enclaves based on risk factors that are likely to become isolated. We want to know where the Pakistanis, Iranians and Chechens are so we can reach out to those communities."

There are 500,000 Muslims in Los Angeles, the second largest Muslim concentration in the US after New York City. American Muslims are estimated between six to seven million, less than three percent of the country's 300 million population.

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The mapping project has immediately provoked diatribe from rights and Muslim advocacy groups.

"This is anti-Semitism reborn as Islamophobia," said Shakeel Syed, director of the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California.

"We certainly reject this idea completely. This stems basically from this presumption that there is homogenized Muslim terrorism that exists among us."

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the largest Muslim advocacy group in the US, also blasted the move.

"Who is going to decide who are the moderates?" said Hussam Ayloush, CAIR executive director for the Los Angeles area.

"Are Muslims who criticize the war in Iraq moderate?"

American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said that the move is nothing but racial profiling.

"When the starting point for a police investigation is lets look at all Muslims,we are going down a dangerous road," ACLU lawyer Peter Bibring told. "Police can and should be engaged with the communities they are policing, but that engagement can't be a mask for intelligence gathering."

ACLU joined Muslims groups in sending a harshly-worded letter to the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD). "Singling out individuals for investigation, surveillance, and data-gathering based on their religion constitutes religious profiling," said the letter.

"In addition to constitutional concerns religious profiling engenders fear and distrust." Six years after the terrorist 9/11 attacks, many American Muslims complain that they continue to face discrimination and stereotyping because of their Islamic attires or identities.

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In terms of profiling of Moslems, I don’t have a problem with this. It’s abundantly clear that there is only one politico-religious group that routinely plots mass murder attacks against the infidel. In such a case, suspicion needs to become an integral part of a reasonable public's thinking and a responsible government's policy. Judicious and rational suspicion based upon facts and ongoing events is instrumental in maintaining order and preventing more jihad attacks.
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infidel?

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In terms of profiling of Moslems, I don’t have a problem with this. It’s abundantly clear that there is only one politico-religious group that routinely plots mass murder attacks against the infidel. In such a case, suspicion needs to become an integral part of a reasonable public's thinking and a responsible government's policy. Judicious and rational suspicion based upon facts and ongoing events is instrumental in maintaining order and preventing more jihad attacks.
So ... was Ted Kaczynski a Muslim? Or what about Timothy McVeigh? Or what about Ripudaman Singh Malik and Ajaib Singh Bagri?

Stupid retard ... get a brain.
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So ... was Ted Kaczynski a Muslim? Or what about Timothy McVeigh? Or what about Ripudaman Singh Malik and Ajaib Singh Bagri?

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Yes, and for good reasons.
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Yes, and for good reasons.
Infidel... for good reasons.
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In terms of profiling of Moslems, I don’t have a problem with this. It’s abundantly clear that there is only one politico-religious group that routinely plots mass murder attacks against the infidel. In such a case, suspicion needs to become an integral part of a reasonable public's thinking and a responsible government's policy. Judicious and rational suspicion based upon facts and ongoing events is instrumental in maintaining order and preventing more jihad attacks.


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Seriously, what is their problem? All they want to do is start something.
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The fact that you have nothing to add doesn't excuse your spam.
Ok, I can tell that you're not a Muslim. Therefore, I would like to ask you some questions:

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ok, going on your train of thought, should all italian-americans then be subject to the same scrutiny for having links to the mafioso? should all irish-americans be held under the same scrutiny for having links to the IRA? believe me buddy, i live in an irish neighborhood, and folks here are not very shy about thier support for the IRA, a terrorist group, to a point they put it on bumper stickers! Should we start mapping out then every italian and irish neighborhood in america then? or how about you mr. land down under? would you like it if the auzzis started mapping out everyone of english descent? would you gladly register with the govt on this so they can keep tabs on you? and the L.A. police dept have enough troubles with racism as it is, this is the last thing that they need. i live in the third biggest city in america, the local police here doesnt deal with this b.s. they got better things to deal with, like violent street gangs, that plague L.A. way more than it does to Chicago.
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I see you've bought into the hype of the big bad Muslim...
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I see you've bought into the hype of the big bad Muslim...
What hype would that be? Is there similar hype directed at fundamentalist Lutherans? How about about radical Presbyterians? Oh no, that's because we simply don't find organized gangs of Christians quoting the Bible to justify mass murder, or as they prepare to behead a bound and gagged moslem while incanting Jesus is great! Jesus is the greatest!
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What hype would that be? Is there similar hype directed at fundamentalist Lutherans? How about about radical Presbyterians? Oh no, that's because we simply don't find organized gangs of Christians quoting the Bible to justify mass murder, or as they prepare to behead a bound and gagged moslem while incanting Jesus is great! Jesus is the greatest!
Of course not silly.

They just lead their nations on mass murder campaigns and dare to call it another Crusade.
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