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Re: At least 2 dozen Okla. lawmakers to return copies of Quran
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Hmmm.
Not said by me
not said by me.
It's rather pathertic when you have to put words into my mouth in order to try to make a point
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NOt really consdiering your history and views, you should make yourself clear before making comments intended to cause a stir.
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Re: At least 2 dozen Okla. lawmakers to return copies of Quran
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Maybe, but now take a look around the world and decide under which religion violence to women and children and indeed violence in general is most practised
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Violence has no religion. The US is pretty up there if you look at statistics. And this a supposedly developed country that adheres to judeo-christian values. Should we blame Christianity and Judaism for all the sexual abuses that occur on a daily basis in the US? Would you dare say Catholicism endorses child molestations?
Here's some statistics from the US.
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4 million American women experience a serious assault by a partner during an average 12-month period. 1
On the average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends every day.2
92% of women say that reducing domestic violence and sexual assault should be at the top of any formal efforts taken on behalf of women today.3
1 out of 3 women around the world has been beaten, coerced into sex or otherwise abused during her lifetime.4
1 in 5 female high school students reports being physically and/or sexually abused by a dating partner. Abused girls are significantly more likely to get involved in other risky behaviors. They are 4 to 6 times more likely to get pregnant and 8 to 9 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide.4
1 in 3 teens report knowing a friend or peer who has been hit, punched, slapped, choked or physically hurt by his/her partner.5
Women of all races are equally vulnerable to violence by an intimate partner.6
37% of all women who sought care in hospital emergency rooms for violence–related injuries were injured by a current or former spouse, boyfriend or girlfriend.7
Some estimates say almost 1 million incidents of violence occur against a current or former spouse, boyfriend or girlfriend per year. 8
For 30% of women who experience abuse, the first incident occurs during pregnancy.9
As many as 324,000 women each year experience intimate partner violence during their pregnancy. 10
Violence against women costs companies $72.8 million annually due to lost productivity.11
74% of employed battered women were harassed by their partner while they were at work.12
Ninety-four percent of the offenders in murder-suicides were male.13
Seventy-four percent of all murder-suicides involved an intimate partner(spouse, common-law spouse, ex-spouse, or boyfriend/girlfriend). Of these, 96 percent were females killed by their intimate partners.13
Most murder-suicides with three or more victims involved a "family annihilator" -- a subcategory of intimate partner murder-suicide.Family annihilators are murderers who kill not only their wives/girlfriends and children, but often other family members as well,before killing themselves.13
Seventy-five percent of murder-suicides occurred in the home.13
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10-27-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: At least 2 dozen Okla. lawmakers to return copies of Quran
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Maybe, but now take a look around the world and decide under which religion violence to women and children and indeed violence in general is most practised
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Christianity, hands down.
Not sure why that point is relevant in this thread but then again, most of your stuff is irrelevant anyways.
So please pick your face up off the floor and, as always ... thanks for trying.
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10-28-2007, 04:46 AM
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NOt really consdiering your history and views, you should make yourself clear before making comments intended to cause a stir.
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Your complacency is truly amazing and matched only by your rudeness, but I guess that you will never understand
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Re: At least 2 dozen Okla. lawmakers to return copies of Quran
[quote=IbnMardhiyah;30451]Christianity, hands down.
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Not sure why that point is relevant in this thread but then again, most of your stuff is irrelevant anyways.
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I was responding to a comment, but your lack of understanding is par for the course
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Re: At least 2 dozen Okla. lawmakers to return copies of Quran
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Violence has no religion.
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However some religions advocate violence, but perhaps you’d rather not acknowledge that
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Re: At least 2 dozen Okla. lawmakers to return copies of Quran
Next time I fly over Oklahoma i'll make sure to shake my fist at some corn fields
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Your complacency is truly amazing and matched only by your rudeness, but I guess that you will never understand
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My friend your actions on this forum speak for themselves. You constantly post anti Islamic rhetoric yet when confronted its always the same deal with you.
You put your hands in the air and say what did i do. So when you make open ended statements we can do nothing but assume the worst based oin your previous actions and statements. I'm not rude nor complacent i am speaking the truth brotha!
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My friend your actions on this forum speak for themselves. You constantly post anti Islamic rhetoric yet when confronted its always the same deal with you.
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Correction, I post facts, facts that you cannot face, you, either deny, claim that it doesn’t happen often, or that it's not Islamic, get real, face the facts, look around the world with an open mind, that’s if you can.
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Correction, I post facts, facts that you cannot face, you, either deny, claim that it doesn’t happen often, or that it's not Islamic, get real, face the facts, look around the world with an open mind, that’s if you can.
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Actually you post opinions ie articles, I have often debated these things with you and agreed with you on many things, however when you post hyperbole or untruths, then I and often others, call you out on it.
You've never lived amongst Muslims nor been to a Muslim country so, yes I do call BS on you as its painfully clear where you stand.
I live in the real world, in fact more so than many people who post on this forum, and out of the many you would find me in the percentage of Muslims who look at this world with an open mind.
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"That's exactly what it says," Duncan said. "I think it's pretty straightforward. By their own admission, those are the exact words. .
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That is the epitome of the southern white-trash way of thinking,subhan'Allah. This man's true trailer trash.
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The hateful attitudes of Moslems toward those who prefer not to accept a Koran seems like a lot of wasted energy. As remarkable as it may seem, we in the U.S. have this ideal called freedom of religion. It means that no one is forced to accept your compulsion to press your religious beliefs on others.
If your sensibilities are offended by those who reject your religion, you will need to be mature enough to accept that.
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If your sensibilities are offended by those who reject your religion, you will need to be mature enough to accept that.
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We were offended by their ignorant attitudes and remarks, not by their rejection of Islam.
Ironically, you display the same lack of comprehension skills as these Oklahomans did.
[Are you from Oklahoma?  ]
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We were offended by their ignorant attitudes and remarks, not by their rejection of Islam.
Ironically, you display the same lack of comprehension skills as these Oklahomans did.
[Are you from Oklahoma?  ]
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Actually, no. You are offended that in the West, you can't force your beliefs on others.
Many people have no interest in your religious beliefs. Learn to be mature enough to accept that.
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Actually, no. You are offended that in the West, you can't force your beliefs on others.
Many people have no interest in your religious beliefs. Learn to be mature enough to accept that.
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Ah. More evidence of your incompetence and lack of comprehension. You're too generous.
Sir, I was born in the West and have lived here my entire life. So don't presume to dictate to me what the West is or isn't about. So, be mature enough to accept that point.
Second, Islam already explicitly says that there is no compulsion in religion and that we cannot force religion upon others. And I understand and accept that wholeheartedly. So please be mature enough to accept that as well.
Toodles.
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