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GOTFIVEONIT · #91 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

Thats why I said pakistan isnt a muslim homeland

well thats the purpose of pakistan, but the ethnic natives dont want that and betray the dreams and aspirations of Muhammad Ali Jinnah and the All-India Muslm League.

MossadConspiracy · #92 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

well thats the purpose of pakistan, but the ethnic natives dont want that and betray the dreams and aspirations of Muhammad Ali Jinnah and the All-India Muslm League.

That wasnt the purpose of pakistan. It wasnt meant to be a universal muslim homeland, but rather a homeland for indian muslims. There are a billion muslims outside the subcontinent who were not considered at all when it came to the creation of pakistan and have nothing to do with pakistan at all

GOTFIVEONIT · #93 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

No its not a muslim homeland, for the reason that you just gave (take a look at the post above this one)

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but that is the purpose of pakistan, to act as homeland for Muslims. you know kinda like your beloved isreal acts for jews?

i suggest you watch this:

YouTube - The Story of Jinnah, the Founder of Pakistan - Final Part

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Jinnah: What's your name?
Little Girl: Zakiya
Jinnah: Where are you from?
Zakiya: Ferozpur (The once Muslim-Majority city that jinnah fought hard to get into pakistan, but lost, and later ethnically cleansed of muslims in the partition riots of 1947)
Jinnah: and where are you going?
Zakiya: To Pakistan!
Jinnah: Thats a brave girl, PAKISTAN WAS MADE FOR YOU, you are safe now
Zakiya: Aba jan maybe the old man knows where amma is?
Zakiya's Dad: Im sorry sir, we beg your forgivness for not recognizing you, but she is just a child, she recently lost her mother
Jinnah: It is I who should ask you for forgivness for any part i have had in what has happend to you
Zakiya's Dad: No sir, i bless you with all my heart, Allah blesses you
Zakiya's Dad: Qaid-E-Azam Zindabad! (Long Live The Great Leader)
Zakiya's Dad: Pakistan Zindabad! (Long Live Pakistan)

MossadConspiracy · #94 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 06:03 AM

yeah exactly, Pakistan is not a muslim version of the jewish state.

GOTFIVEONIT · #95 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

yeah exactly, Pakistan is not a muslim version of the jewish state.

Pakistan

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Pakistan was created in 1947 as a homeland for Muslims of South Asia. With an estimated population of 150 million, it is the world's second largest Muslim country after Indonesia. Today it is an avowedly Islamic republic, wherein Islamic standards dominate national political discourse and influence discussions about democratization, economic reform, and state-society relations.

Pakistan was the culmination of the Muslim demand for separatism at the twilight of British rule in India. Many Muslims, including thinkers like Abul-Kalam Azad (d. 1958) and religious institutions such as the Jam'iat-i Ulama-i Hind (Society of Indian Ulama), remained involved in the independence movement under the leadership of the Indian Congress Party. Others followed intellectuals such as Muhammad Iqbal (d. 1938) and politicians such as Muhammad Ali Jinnah (d. 1948) in the Muslim League; they questioned the belief that the struggle against the British ought to be the paramount concern of Muslims. These Muslims were apprehensive about living as a minority in a predominantly Hindu state and sought to safeguard and further Muslim communal interests before an uncertain future.

For the leaders of the Pakistan movement, however, Muslim nationalism was not so much a religious notion as a communal one. Himself secular, Jinnah wanted to identify Muslims as a people belonging to a distinct cultural group and sharing a common identity separate from that of the majority population. The promise of Pakistan for Jinnah lay not in its religious potential, but in the fact that it would serve as a political arena in which a Muslim's aspirations would not be limited by his identity. But Jinnah was not able to keep Pakistan a secular ideal. The separatist struggle, especially during its last phase, was compelled to appeal to Islamic symbols to mobilize public support, opening the door to thinking of Pakistan as an Islamic ideal.

MossadConspiracy · #96 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 06:14 AM

exactly, there you go

GOTFIVEONIT · #97 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

exactly, there you go

and what part of this did you miss??

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Pakistan was created in 1947 as a homeland for Muslims of South Asia. With an estimated population of 150 million, it is the world's second largest Muslim country after Indonesia. Today it is an avowedly Islamic republic, wherein Islamic standards dominate national political discourse and influence discussions about democratization, economic reform, and state-society relations.

MossadConspiracy · #98 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 06:17 AM

none, but you seemed to have missed three words from that quote that you highlighted in red. The last three words to be exact

GOTFIVEONIT · #99 (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

none, but you seemed to have missed three words from that quote that you highlighted in red. The last three words to be exact

thats what i have been saying. thats it's especially a homeland for muslims of that region, but you can include from other countries as well, and believe me plenty of muslims from other countries do live there.

TariqBinSleepin · #**100** (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

keep silent slave. since you say the quran is to be intrepreted literally im doing just that - with you! what's a matter dont like it now?

ill pay anyone money, who brings this tariq guy to me in a collar and chains.

o.O. Got5....are u...do you....You swing the other way don't you! Thats why YOU're soo angry! cuz you werent allowed in one of those 15 ppl rooms with the lungies with yer cousin. *sigh* SHoulda Guessed.

GOTFIVEONIT · #**101** (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TariqBinSleepin

o.O. Got5....are u...do you....You swing the other way don't you! Thats why YOU're soo angry! cuz you werent allowed in one of those 15 ppl rooms with the lungies with yer cousin. *sigh* SHoulda Guessed.

awww whats a matter? dont like it when the literalist interpretation is brought upon you? what a hypocrite.

shsh · #**102** (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TariqBinSleepin

o.O. Got5....are u...do you....You swing the other way don't you! Thats why YOU're soo angry! cuz you werent allowed in one of those 15 ppl rooms with the lungies with yer cousin. *sigh* SHoulda Guessed.

lol...lunghis...i remember when we were in dubai...we went to this uncles house..and he was wearing a lunghi...it was hilarious...my sibs and i were cracking up..

TariqBinSleepin · #**103** (**permalink**) 10-21-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GOTFIVEONIT

awww whats a matter? dont like it when the literalist interpretation is brought upon you? what a hypocrite.

*sigh* no point in arguing with you.

"Nothing is worse than active ignorance.

-Holding onto anger is like grasping onto a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else. You are the one who gets burned."