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11-05-2007, 05:11 AM
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i find it ironic that you of all people hold serious disdain against armenians.
Armenians lived peacefully with Iranians for centuries, and were welcomed with open arms by Muslims in the Levant. in addition, armenians in general have always been sympathetic to palestine and have been staunchly pro-palestine. they even paid a price during the civil war in lebanon for refusing to side with the pro-israeli militias.
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I don't hate them. But I don't entirely believe these genocide stories either. They conjured up a lot of mistruths about many events that occured in those times and are also guilty of mass crimes during the Ottoman Empire decline. As fellow Caucasians, I sympathize with them. However, there is a right way to do things. I am impressed with how over two dozen countries accept the Armenian Genocide though. That's a really good feat.
As for their support of Palestinians, any logical party can do this. Anyone who's got a brain can see the injustice behind this conflict. I don't think Palestinians are entirely innocent either. However, they do suffer more than the Israelis do. I mean the general people. You don't see too many Israelis living on less than $2 a day.
That's besides the point also.
As long as they appreciate what they have.
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11-05-2007, 05:12 AM
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Yes. Sadly radical Islam is taking on a new form in the Caucasus. Due to economic disparities, a crappy education system, and the overall dismal situation of the region, you have many young people starting to turn to these nutty mullahs for help and guidance. And these morons take advantage of the fact that Islam was not strong in the region for decades as a result. Very very sad 
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11-05-2007, 04:50 PM
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Which other unknown genocides? The genocide of Redskins in North America or the bombing of Dresden during WW2. Don't even mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki! How about killing more than a million iraqis? US goverment directly involved in the last one.
You want more examples? These are all heard. Nothing is unheard.
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While I appreciate your recognition of the 'genocide' of my people, the correct term to use would be American Indians or Native Americans when referencing us. Redskins is a racist term.
Thanks.
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11-05-2007, 04:58 PM
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Haven't watched the videobut that story about the beheading of those girls was simply disgusting. Apart from the sheer brutality of six armed men setting upon innocent schoolgirls to behead them, their reasons for doing so are just obnoxious and depraved.
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However, after further discussion with friends, he decided that beheading Christians could qualify as an act of Muslim charity.
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I don't remember seeing this on Islamica before. Were people here aware of this when it happened and did they discuss this at all?
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11-05-2007, 05:01 PM
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Hmm. I think you need to define Genocide a little better. While the attempts to wipe out the native population were probably genocide, Dresden was more mass murder. But then war is not to be taken lightly and in war, cities are destroyed. Again, this was not the case for the native peoples. The attempts of the Hutu's and Tutsi's to wipe each other off the globe are probably genocide. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are clearly not. Serbia's war on Muslims was Genocide, and it was opposed by the US. or did you forget that? If not for the US, Islam in that part of the world would be gone. I find myself agreeing with Rodney King: Why can't we all just get along? as a side note, I share the electrical abnormality Rodney King possesses that caused Police to assume he was on angel dust. Stunners don't phase me. If a cop stunned me he would assume I was a dust head. Some people are just wired differently. Anyway, If we are opposed to genocide against Muslims, we should oppose ALL genocide. Its the intellectually honest thing to do. 
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Well said.
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11-06-2007, 01:23 AM
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as for proof, i do recall that Robert Fisk (a man that is constantly referenced on here) has been a staunch advocate of the recognition of the genocide.
Turks need to get over it and admit their faults. they also murdered hundreds of thousands of assyrians and greeks as well, but hey, they're christian, they're worthless, right? 
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hahaha you're so funny.
i wont bother answering you,
dumpy.
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11-07-2007, 09:03 AM
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While I appreciate your recognition of the 'genocide' of my people, the correct term to use would be American Indians or Native Americans when referencing us. Redskins is a racist term.
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you are right, and the football team, the washington redskins have taken alot of heat over it.
but in India, people refer to the native americans as 'red indians' simply to distinguish them from us brown indians lol.
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as for proof, i do recall that Robert Fisk (a man that is constantly referenced on here) has been a staunch advocate of the recognition of the genocide.
Turks need to get over it and admit their faults. they also murdered hundreds of thousands of assyrians and greeks as well, but hey, they're christian, they're worthless, right?
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this is all zionist propoganda, because for decades Muslims have always said that Muslims were not involved in the nazi holocoust of europe, why should palestinians be made to suffer for the crimes of the germans? So they want to paint holocoust on Muslimm's by using the Osmani Caliphate and claiming that they committed mass genocide, which is a lie in itself. I remember years ago, the local tv news was showing here a demonstration by these idioitic armenians protesting the turkish leader turkut ogzal during his visit to Chicago.
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people have real trouble coming to terms with history.
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11-07-2007, 01:04 PM
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people have real trouble coming to terms with history.
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why history? there's a modern-day genocide going on in palestine right now by modern day nazi-type fascists, but people have trouble coming to terms with that.
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11-07-2007, 03:56 PM
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Turkey has been having a great few months
congrats to all the turks for not only breaking armo hearts but also Kurdish ones as well.
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11-08-2007, 12:06 PM
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this is all zionist propoganda, because for decades Muslims have always said that Muslims were not involved in the nazi holocoust of europe, why should palestinians be made to suffer for the crimes of the germans? So they want to paint holocoust on Muslimm's by using the Osmani Caliphate and claiming that they committed mass genocide, which is a lie in itself. I remember years ago, the local tv news was showing here a demonstration by these idioitic armenians protesting the turkish leader turkut ogzal during his visit to Chicago.
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oh God stop blaming zionists for everything. everything is a bloody zionist propaganda to you.
you know what shimon peres said about the Armenian genocide? he denied that it was a genocide.
and you continue to blame zionists for this. if anything, zionists have been instrumental in preventing the recognition of the genocide.
and they have every right to protest for the recognition of the genocide.
there's plenty of evidence, whether you like it or not. it's time that muslims admit that we are not so innocent in crimes committed either.
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why history? there's a modern-day genocide going on in palestine right now by modern day nazi-type fascists, but people have trouble coming to terms with that.
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so when muslims commit genocide, it's perfectly okay to white-wash that?
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