[MossadConspiracy]

Yeah but I'm sure you still appreciate the medications that are helping so many people to stay alive and to function normally, the public health and industrial and agricultural advances that allow large populations to survive in countries like yours, the technology that allows people around the world to communicate, etc. Just like the world should appreciate the advances that Turkey made before their decline. One day in some decades or centuries, America will decline too, but it will be remembered for the many advances that it brought to the world and the advent of modernity and the space age and so on.

As for the Kurdish government in Iraq, they just need katyushas and wire/laser guided anti-tank rockets like Hizbullah so they can repel an invasion by a much stronger enemy (the way hizbullah did). They probably wont be grateful to have anti-psychotic medication if they dont also have rocket emplacements and anti-aircraft batteries to stop turkey from stomping all over them

[Ugur]

Americans like you must first appreciate the gifts of Allah to you and follow His guidance and the Prophet (peace be unto him) that He sent to all of humankind. As part of this appreciation, you must stop allying with those who want to divide Muslims and have them fight each other. By your words above which distort the truth of the matter about the Turks and Kurds despite all the explanations we have given in this thread, you have showed your support in the divide-and-conquer policies and the vested interests of the kuffar in exploiting Muslim lands. Allah will judge between us and in Him we put our trust. In the judgment Day, inshallah I will watch with utmost pleasure what Allah will do to you because of your enlightened westernized ill-feelings for the entire Turkish people and their country. Ah you have no ill feelings for the Turkish people and their country! Yeah, and the pigs might fly.

[MossadConspiracy]

Its very simple, your country is threatening to invade Iraq to fight the PKK organization in response to their attacks and activities in Turkey. The president of Iraq along with the president and legislature of the Kurdish autonomous region are promising to fight back if Turkey violates the border. The Arab leaders of Iraq are avoiding the issue but probably wouldnt mind seeing the Kurds take a stomping, and America does not seem to be willing to honor pledges they've made to the Kurds because Turkey is a better and more important ally to the USA. Theres not much to distort.

ws

[Ugur]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

Its very simple, your country is threatening to invade Iraq to fight the PKK organization in response to their attacks and activities in Turkey. The president of Iraq along with the president and legislature of the Kurdish autonomous region are promising to fight back if Turkey violates the border. The Arab leaders of Iraq are avoiding the issue but probably wouldnt mind seeing the Kurds take a stomping, and America does not seem to be willing to honor pledges they've made to the Kurds because Turkey is a better and more important ally to the USA. Theres not much to distort.

ws

Yeah you have very aptly summarized all the discussion.

[MossadConspiracy]

thanks bro

[Arabesque]

MC, I'm glad you and I agree on the Kurdish issue at least.

And this is for you

[Ugur]

Apart from your distorting all the discussion line of the thread, what you said above is gross hypocrisy and falsehood.

Your country invaded a country, Afghanistan, thousands of miles away for a terrorist attack allegedly committed by people supported by the Afghan government. Here is the same situation with more rightfulness in Turkey's part. Another government, North Iraq, is clearly supporting a terrorist organization which makes attacks on Turkey and kills Turkish people. This country is not even thousands of miles away and Turkey does not even intend to attack this government itself as America did in Afghanistan. Unlike America Turkey intends to hit only the terrorist camps, the places where terrorists are physically supported etc.

But as you are a hypocrite and an American, you are talking nonsense like this.

I hope Turkey never has to invade North Iraq, though. I hope the Americans and the North Iraqi Kurdish puppets of the Americans act with only a bit of good intentions and stop supporting the terrorists and supplying them with weapons. That is the only right way to eliminate the controversy.

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by Ugur

Apart from your distorting all the discussion line of the thread, what you said above is gross hypocrisy and falsehood.

Don't worry. America (and Canada) will be undone by the end of this century, and all the non-natives will be sent back to where they came from or pushed into the sea and the lands returned to their rightful owners. No nation can grow more powerful than Allah, and in due time Allah will remind us.

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

MC, I'm glad you and I agree on the Kurdish issue at least.

And this is for you

i'm sure we agree on alot, but yes kurds deserve to be free. I also hope a certain group of kurd hating turks in elazig lose all their money

[Ugur]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

Don't worry. America (and Canada) will be undone by the end of this century, and all the non-natives will be sent back to where they came from or pushed into the sea and the lands returned to their rightful owners. No nation can grow more powerful than Allah, and in due time Allah will remind us.

Go make fun of your grandfather, you secularist who has expressed his disbelief in Allah's shariah on Islamica.

Americans don't need to be returned to their ancestral homelands for what their ancestors did in America. There is a quicker solution to what the current American governments are doing, which the conspirator guy and some other person have made me angry about in this thread. Long before the end of this century, all of us in the world will most probably die. As a result all American imperialists with their divide-and-conquer policies over the Muslim ummah will die too. In the graves and then in the judgment day, all the disputes will be settled and mufsideen will be punished.

[MuslimahDaTurkish]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

Yes but Iraq is also a US ally, and their military is supposedly being constructed by Uncle Sam from the ground up. So that should include Iraq's artillery and air defense corps. America can help the Kurds protect themselves legitimately, without destroying the alliance with Turkey, we just dont because Turkey is a bigger, wealthier, and more powerful and important ally. So in the end, Turkey burning Kurdish villages in a few months will mean about as much as the Armenian villages that they burned 90 years ago

you dont know any crap about the reality,so dont talk ignorantly about it. you wont change no matter how much we tell you,but at least dont make imputation.
"if" we had to burn any villages, we would burn not only armenians', since we had many nations inside our borders. Why cant u put that in your mind and follow your one-sided and so-called freedom stories?
Read my signature; prophet Muhammad (pbuh) praised my country's army and its soldiers sooo many years ago. Who are you to blame them?

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

whatever happens in Pakistan isnt relevant to this, but the Kurds have shown very clearly that their goal as a people is independence, and since they are a separate nation with their own native lands then they should have it.

ws

Since ive known you on this forum,you are uttering the same disgusting indepence tales and dont know whats lying under this issue.
We are a country today,with Kurds and other races. We are living together and none of my kurdish friends want to live in a kurdish state ! We are one country and one nation today ,noone is opressed as u read in the tales. If you are so interested ,come and see them LIVE. Noone can divide us and take land from this country, then give it out to the darkness.

By the way 12 turks were killed today.. Mashaallah ........................ u should dance.

[MossadConspiracy]

salam sister

do you know anything about turkish people who live in the United States? Is it common for turkish girls brought up here in America to go back to Turkey and get married there?

ws

[MuslimahDaTurkish]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

salam sister

do you know anything about turkish people who live in the United States? Is it common for turkish girls brought up here in America to go back to Turkey and get married there?

ws

For example my cousin did.
Why askin?

[Ugur]

Alhamdulillah my Kurdish friend has once again told me that neither he nor his Kurdish family want an independent state. They want the religious Prime Minister Erdogan to continue with his reforms and the EU admission process. They want the state to make economic reforms in the eastern-Kurdish areas and are happy that Prime Minister Erdogan is actually doing that. That's why the AK Party government has increased its Kurdish votes in this year's election! Kurds like my friends even call the PKK terrorists "pigs" and "violent dogs", pigs and dogs who are causing Kurds only trouble in order to serve the vested interests of their masters in North Iraq and the U.S.

They detest the Kurdish authorities of North Iraq who are happy with the presence of the kafir American invaders on their soil but who threaten to attack Turkey if Turkey gets into Iraq to fight the PKK terrorists.

I write this prayer in the hope that it is accepted by the One who accepts sincere prayers.

"O Allah, the only lord of all people, our only King, our only God, protect your Turkish and Kurdish servants from following the lead of the kuffar and the mufsideen who want us to hate and fight each other. Protect us from the evil of the mufsideen who want to bar people of Turkey from your path. They want to hinder the progress of our people in recent years in terms of increasing in piety. Protect us from their designs by helping us with your own benevolent designs. Render neither Turks no Kurds disobedient to you. Do not let these kuffar and munafiqeen sow seeds of mutual hatred in our hearts. Aameen."

[Ugur]

MossadConspiracy and Arabesque, as a brother in Islam, I sincerely advise you to stop following the ways of the kuffar in politics and serving their evil designs.