[sally]

Originally Posted by DramaRani

I just need to go to the gym during a time where so many people aren't there.

ive noticed 11 - 1 in the afternoon is a timeframe when not a lot of people are at the gym..but then it depends also on whether your gym is in a commercial area cuz then a lot of people crash during their lunch break

just ask the ppl who work at your gym when the least busy hour is. i'd say 2-4 is pretty slow around this place..so yeah. the busiest hours are 5-7..that's when everyone and their mom gets off work and hits the gym

oh and 20 bucks for ballys is like off the charts awesome. except i think ballys is going bankrupt (now or soon?)

and it's uncool that your womens gym is pricey..most i've been affiliated with and the one i work at are less than 20 a month. but i guess the ones that have daycare and saunas and other non fitness related services are a little up there.

[Sha_]

Originally Posted by sally

the 2nd pic isnt showing up

those are resis. bands, yes..but theyre not too feasible for different movements..

go to like the exercise department of a store near you and you might be able to find like a whole box of diff 'free' tubes (for women) with a chart of diff exercises you can do and stuff

you mean like these?


The second pic on my last post was like the top green one and the bottom yellow one here, and the woman was stepping on the middle of it and holding the two ends/handles.

[sally]

yup..exactly..if you end up getting them remember to make sure that you warm up before using the bands..

[DramaRani]

Originally Posted by DramaRani

Okay, put whatever you just said in easier to understand terms. What should you do first, what should you do second?

Originally Posted by sally

maybe you can find a womens only gym?

welcome back to islamica, btw and congrats on graduation!

oh and another advantage of weights i forgot to mention earlier..like i said it takes 30-45 mins of straight up cardio to kick into fat loss mode for real...bc until then it's burning the calories you've eaten or whatever..if you do weights for the first 30 mins, you pretty much use up all those calories..and your muscles get really tired..so by the time you get to cardio after weights, you're in fat loss mode..PLUS your muscles need something to keep them going because theyre so tired and there aren't really any 'free floating' calories left to feed on for it..so it attacks the fat

So you're saying do some weight-circuit routine for 30 minutes then do cardio?!?!?!

[displaced]

so does anyone know about mbt shoes?

[lol_lol]

i love yogo and dancing.

i was asked to be a dance teacher
not happening LOL

[sally]

Originally Posted by DramaRani

So you're saying do some weight-circuit routine for 30 minutes then do cardio?!?!?!

yea cuz by the time you get to cardio, you dont need to do an hour of it to get the max results..you can do 20-25 mins and be good to go

Originally Posted by displaced

so does anyone know about mbt shoes?

dude, i read about them a while ago. sounded a little weird/cool/interesting

dont know too much tho..the pics ive seen are all ugly tho

[sumayyah]

Originally Posted by sally

stuff like this confirms that fat loss does not occur when cardio is the only thing that's done

you need to incorporate light weights into your workouts at least every other day..

there is no difference between the potential effect of calorie burning of ellipticals and treadmills..either way you go, you're burning calories depending on your intensity. it's just that you're using different sets of muscles on each one of them. and variation in work out is really important because you dont want to keep hitting the same muscle groups every day because eventually they build resistance to the movement and it stops working as well for you.

if you normally just do cardio, yes..you dont kick into fat loss mode until 30-45 mins into your work out because until then you just burn off the glycogen stores that are chilling in your body

i've written numerous posts on the benefits of light weight training for women with fat loss goals countless times and how it actually works in your favor like scientifically but they got deleted on the old islamica and im too lazy to dig up the old ones in this thread, but basically, doing weights for an hour might burn less calories than doing cardio for an hour..however, the next 48 hours after weight training result in a lot more total calorie expenditure (because your muscle is trying to heal from being torn apart and sorta eatng the fat around it) and the effects of just plain cardio are very shortlived..your metabolism might stay elevated for a few hours after an hour long cardio workout but eventually it'll come back down

this is not to say cardio isnt something you should stop doing at all..because it really helps your endurance and strenght and heart etc but you need weights to help you lose weight

so if you're willing to incorporate some of that, and trust me, you wont get big at all..it's really impossible to get big unless you train for hours on end and plus women dont have enough testosterone, then feel free to hit me on AIM and i can help you out with what you can do and stuff

oh and i forgot to mention it's really important for women to do weights because it helps with skin elasticity as you get older, prevents your metabolism from slowing down when you get older, and most importantly helps prevent osteoporosis..which is very common. plus a whole crapload of other benefits like being less prone to joint injuries, etc. oh, and apparently pregnancy and labor arent half bad/less prone to become complicated for women who work out regularly

awesome. thanks sally

I use to do weights when I first started working out but then people freaked me out by telling me that if I wasnt consistent with doing weights then after I stopped, it would cause me to gain more weight. i'm not sure how thats suppose to happen but i think at the time it scared me enough to make me stop going

i'll IM you and maybe you can help me figure out a weights workout. i go to the gym at school and i think all the machines there are made for guys. i usually have to go reallllly early to avoid the male crowd.

[displaced]

Originally Posted by sally

sounded a little weird/cool/interesting

dont know too much tho..the pics ive seen are all ugly tho

they're ugly and expensive, yes. but what I want to find out is if they work.

[iSHi]

Is intensive cardio the only way to lose weight on the thighs?! Because I noticed most "leg" or "thigh" workouts make them bigger..and mine are already taking over my body.

[infamousbrown]

Originally Posted by sally

cuz what if you're burning muscle? if your heart rate is raised non stop like without any breaks in between as you'd have with explosive cardio training, then isnt everything gonna switch over to anaerobic? and that would end up making you burn more muscle..

just wondering

this didn't sound right to me so I looked into it -- anaerobic exercise builds muscle as opposed to burning it.

[sally]

Originally Posted by infamousbrown

this didn't sound right to me so I looked into it -- anaerobic exercise builds muscle as opposed to burning it.

yeah, but the stage of cardio when your heart rate is at its max also is known as anaerobic because only 15% of calories being used are coming from fat..the rest apparently ive been told come from muscle IF YOU keep that intensity up for longer than a few minutes (hence my earlier post about confusion)

like when guys weight lift, it's non a constant process. you rest after every set or so because nonstop high energy expenditure of that nature means you need more to get by than just 'fat'. like you cant tear your muscles down without stopping for a few seconds.

Anaerobic exercise is used by athletes in non-endurance sports to build power and by body builders to build muscle mass. Muscles trained under anaerobic conditions develop differently, leading to greater performance in short duration, high intensity activities, which last up to about 2 minutes.


anyways i wish i could already be in my exercise physiology class i have to take a bunch of stupid stuff beforehand. BLAH!

[infamousbrown]

See http://www.islamicaweb.com/forums/fo...html#post72554 for background.

Today is one week since I've started stacking ECA, and I'll be upping the stack to 2 doses a day.

I think the initial effect of being wired 30-60 mins after dosing has faded and my body has gotten used to the lowest dosage (once a day.)

I'm down 5lbs, about 2% bodyfat. The upper part of my abs are distinctly more chiseled.


I've modified my workout plan so that I get in some high intensity circuit training for at least 25-30 mins before my cardio.

Now I'll be taking the second dose closer to my muay thai training so I'll be watching to see if I feel a pump/improved endurance.

No noticeable losses in strength, I'm still putting up the same weight and reps as I was before.

I forgot to mention this in the first post but I'm also supplementing with sizeon, a creatine blend, to maintain as much strength given that I'm on a calorie reduced diet. I've been using the creatine since september and man is it great. But that's another discussion.

[infamousbrown]

Originally Posted by sally

yeah, but the stage of cardio when your heart rate is at its max also is known as anaerobic because only 15% of calories being used are coming from fat..the rest apparently ive been told come from muscle IF YOU keep that intensity up for longer than a few minutes (hence my earlier post about confusion)

like when guys weight lift, it's non a constant process. you rest after every set or so because nonstop high energy expenditure of that nature means you need more to get by than just 'fat'. like you cant tear your muscles down without stopping for a few seconds.

Anaerobic exercise is used by athletes in non-endurance sports to build power and by body builders to build muscle mass. Muscles trained under anaerobic conditions develop differently, leading to greater performance in short duration, high intensity activities, which last up to about 2 minutes.


anyways i wish i could already be in my exercise physiology class i have to take a bunch of stupid stuff beforehand. BLAH!

True. Good point at bringing up having to rest.

I don't know how much faith I have in those predetermined heart rate guidelines. They seem to underestimate athletes and overestimate the average person. According to the guideline, when I'm training at 160-170 bpm that's considered hardcore anareobic exercise, just short of my VO2 max, but it sure doesn't feel like it. I hang out at 160-170 for an hour without sucking wind.