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Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

Smart business man. He's found a nitche market.

I think it could expand beyond the Muslim market too...a lot of vegans and vegitarians would love this stuff.

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by Bluestar

They advertised to make people believe that their powder mixed with the contaminated water was healthier than breast milk You could say each person has an individual choice but if you knew how much advertising and "newspeak" could influence someone, you'd know it was unethical.

Well, being in sales means that yes, I do understand how much advertising can influence people.

But my question is ... was Nestle actually telling people to mix the milk powder with contaminated water?

Or were they just saying, "mix the powder with water" and, the people themselves used contaminated sources of water [knowingly or not] ?

[zzze]

assalamu alaykum

awwwwww...my little brothers have those calenders each year. Cute.

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Well, being in sales means that yes, I do understand how much advertising can influence people.

But my question is ... was Nestle actually telling people to mix the milk powder with contaminated water?

Or were they just saying, "mix the powder with water" and, the people themselves used contaminated sources of water [knowingly or not] ?

Sadly, potable water is hard to find in many areas of the developing world.

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Sadly, potable water is hard to find in many areas of the developing world.

Was that the situation in the region where those babies died?

And if it was, then what were the babies being fed before Nestle began selling powdered milk there? Were they only given mothers' milk and no other types of food mixed with the contaminated water?

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Was that the situation in the region where those babies died?

Were they only given mothers' milk and no other types of food mixed with the contaminated water?

Yes.

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Yes.

You know something Timbit?

Deep down inside, I'm totally in utter awe and admiration of your ability to provide such detailed and complete evidence to back up your assertions.

There's so much valuable information in your replies that, I feel like my head's gonna just, explode.

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

You know something Timbit?

Deep down inside, I'm totally in utter awe and admiration of your ability to provide such detailed and complete evidence to back up your assertions.

There's so much valuable information in your replies that, I feel like my head's gonna just, explode.

Dude, you can do your own research, seriously.
You have no idea of what you're talking about.

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Dude, you can do your own research, seriously.
You have no idea of what you're talking about.

owe mai gawd! Again!

she's on a roll!!!!

[Judicata]

I want a Ramadan Oompa-Loompa (Jewish or otherwise)..you know, to do those chores like cooking and cleaning when all you really want to do is sleep...
Know where I can order one?

[Bluestar]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Well, being in sales means that yes, I do understand how much advertising can influence people.

But my question is ... was Nestle actually telling people to mix the milk powder with contaminated water?

Or were they just saying, "mix the powder with water" and, the people themselves used contaminated sources of water [knowingly or not] ?

You're in sales? ah Nestle didn't offer the milk powder as an alternative, they persuaded people it was healthier than breast milk, that if they weren't buying it and feeding it to their children, they were somehow malnourishing them. and as Timbit mentioned before, only rich people have the ability to have
their water filtered. Maybe you don't realise, but there are still loads of people in Africa who live in mud huts with most of the time hardly anything to eat because their maize hasn't grown as much as they thought, or the weather spoilt most of their crops?

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by Bluestar

You're in sales? ah Nestle didn't offer the milk powder as an alternative, they persuaded people it was healthier than breast milk, that if they weren't buying it and feeding it to their children, they were somehow malnourishing them. and as Timbit mentioned before, only rich people have the ability to have
their water filtered. Maybe you don't realise, but there are still loads of people in Africa who live in mud huts with most of the time hardly anything to eat because their maize hasn't grown as much as they thought, or the weather spoilt most of their crops?

My family isn't rich, but our water is filtered by the municipal water company. Canadian water is refreshing and nice to drink, straight from the tap.

And you still haven't shown how Nestle was responsible for those deaths. If the water was there already and people were drinking it, then there should have been no problem using it with the baby formula.

And if it was contaminated and people used it, then how is Nestle to be held liable for that? How can you hold them responsible for something that was outside their control?

[farah]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Here in North America, one of the halal brands, Al-Safa, was once said to be owned by Jewish businessmen but I'm not too sure about that.

In any case it doesn't make a difference. Halal is halal whether owned by a Muslim, Jew or Christian.

true story! (though i dunno the dude's religion, he's non-Muslim): As Al Safa Grows So does opposition to it

though that doesn't make the meat any less halal. shrug.

[Blue_Phoenix]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

And if it was contaminated and people used it, then how is Nestle to be held liable for that? How can you hold them responsible for something that was outside their control?

I'd hold them responsible because they lied in their advertising. That's just despicable. I don't care how accepted it is in first-world countries; it's still despicable.