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Anyways, WHO. CARES.

I still think "Thank You For Smoking" was an awesome movie.
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Lung cancer is not the only illness caused by smoking. These are some of the things that occur more often in smokers:

Chronic inflammation of the airways, increased risk of infections and emphysema;

High blood pressure and increased cholesterol deposition, which can lead to heart attacks, heart failure, and even strokes and kidney failure;

Oral, pharyngeal, and esophageal cancers;

Pancreatic cancer (one of the fastest, most painful forms of cancer);

Bladder cancer;

and numerous adverse effects for pregnant women and their fetuses.

Plus you put everyone around you at risk for all of the above too.

thats true, and guess what happend as a result of drinking green tea and rooh afza over the last two months? i started breathing better and my bronchitis went away!
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thats true, and guess what happend as a result of drinking green tea and rooh afza over the last two months? i started breathing better and my bronchitis went away!
Unfortunately, the placebo effect isn't so effective for pancreatic cancer.
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Just to make it clear...
Lung cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in the United States.

Lung cancer causes 30% of all cancer deaths.

Lung cancer is the leading cancer killer among Caucasians, African-Americans, Asians and Hispanic males.

Lung cancer will kill more people this year than:

breast cancer
prostate cancer
colon cancer
liver cancer
kidney cancer
melanoma...combined
Lung cancer will kill three times as many men as prostate cancer this year.

Lung cancer will kill nearly twice as many women as breast cancer this year.

Over 50% of new lung cancer cases will be diagnosed at a very late stage—Stage IIIb or IV— and only 5% of them will live for 5 years.

Myth: After you stop smoking, your lungs go back to normal in 10 years.

Truth: The lungs never go back to normal. Most former smokers remain at elevated risk.

Current smokers: 35-40% of new lung cancer cases
Former smokers: 50% of new lung cancer cases
Never smoked: 10-15% of new lung cancer cases

source:Lung Cancer Alliance
these statistics are bogus. lung cancer is NOT the leading cause of death in america - its diabetes, and drunk driving believe it or not. its why theres national epidemic to combat obesity by the u.s. health dept. Not only that, I have reports by other conservative doctors who even question that cigarettes are responsible for lung cancer. again there is too much propoganda put out there by the medical industry.

the oldest man in the world, lives in japan, drank, and smoked and lived to be well over a 100. that's why i say all smokers should drink green tea, or use the extract tablets. switch a alternative diet, which includes neem tablets (neem is natures drugstore).
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that's why i say all smokers should drink green tea, or use the extract tablets. switch a alternative diet, which includes neem tablets (neem is natures drugstore).
you should show off your vast medical knowledge to those shallow desi chicks.
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lung cancer is NOT the leading cause of death in america -
leading cause of CANCER death.
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these statistics are bogus. lung cancer is NOT the leading cause of death in america - its diabetes, and drunk driving believe it or not. its why theres national epidemic to combat obesity by the u.s. health dept. Not only that, I have reports by other conservative doctors who even question that cigarettes are responsible for lung cancer. again there is too much propoganda put out there by the medical industry.

the oldest man in the world, lives in japan, drank, and smoked and lived to be well over a 100. that's why i say all smokers should drink green tea, or use the extract tablets. switch a alternative diet, which includes neem tablets (neem is natures drugstore).
OK, well that's all very nice.

Number of deaths for leading causes of death
Heart disease: 652,486
Cancer: 553,888
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,074
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 121,987
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 112,012 (all accidents, not just alcohol related ones)
Diabetes: 73,138
Alzheimer's disease: 65,965
Influenza/Pneumonia: 59,664
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 42,480
Septicemia: 33,373

By the way, I get my data from the CDC, where do you get yours?
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Anyways, WHO. CARES.

I still think "Thank You For Smoking" was an awesome movie.
Ditto. The main character was brilliant.
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ten character rule damn it.
says one that has no friends on islamica

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So what if religious guys smoke? What's your point? How does that make it more acceptable? Or ok in the sharia? (even if you follow the makrooh opinion, it's still blameworthy). Or healthier?

Anyways, good luck with that.....
I never said its acceptable. And i agree even makruh holds a lot of weight in Shariah. But we're talking about occasional smooking/hookah, not as an addiction.

I think there's a clear difference..

But yea, thanks for being concerned
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Dude, you're in denial. Cigarettes are an extremely addicitve substance. Anyone who has ever smoked knows that by the third or fourth cigarette, it gets into your system. Your body begins craving it.

Make intention to quit, inshallah. You'll be in a much better position.
I beg to differ man. I dont think it goes in the system and causes addiction. I think it has to do with one's mental strength....the weaker a person is mentally, the more vulnerable he becomes to any addiction


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Shah: p.s. can you stop being judgmental plz? Its certainly not befitting a muslimah..

I love you, and this isn't necessarily directed towards you alone, but what the hell is up with people complaining about others being 'judgmental'?? Get over it. People are constantly, whether intentionally or unintentionally, judging others but love to complain when they are openly judged and they don't like what they hear. It's always when they are doing something wrong do they have a problem with people 'judging' them. Now if the people are judging them by complimenting them, then they are just a bundle of joy but other than that, they want to lecture on the harms of judging. Please.

Look at me, I'm about to judge you and this is directed to you: I care about you too freakin' much to sit here and sugarcoat or lie to you. You are too freakin' sweet, too freakin' cute, too freakin' smart, to freakin' caring, to waste your precious and valuable life and body on some freakin' loser addiction like smoking. You want to die of some disease that was TOTALLY preventable? Huh?? I don't care if you smoke on occasion, because that doesn't make a piss worth of difference when it comes to harming your body. What the hell is wrong with you? To freak with all those who smoke, grow a set of freakin' balls and be your own man. If you continue to smoke, I will freakin' kick your freakin' ass when I come and see you. And you do NOT want your freakin' ass kicked by an angry midget black american woman! So stop being a freakin' attention wh0r3 and focus on your schooling and other aspects of your life so you can live out this Blessed life God has given you and you can make me some nieces and nephews damnit. Do I make myself freakin' clear?


shadha-


That's by far *THE* funniest and cutest thing I heard from you, Shadha. Cant even rep you for it...damnit

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you guys. He smoked a cigarette. You would think he performed a human sacrifice on a baby, and then drank it's blood.
Word.


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quite a few of the former are much healthier than the latter.
Damn....we have a dealer here ...

another proof mods are full of corruption.
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Anyways, WHO. CARES.

I still think "Thank You For Smoking" was an awesome movie.
There are people who do care....more than you think so

I'll add that movie on top of my to-see-list after the exams....thanks
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leading cause of CANCER death.
Thank you!!
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OK, well that's all very nice.

Number of deaths for leading causes of death
Heart disease: 652,486
Cancer: 553,888
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,074
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 121,987
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 112,012 (all accidents, not just alcohol related ones)
Diabetes: 73,138
Alzheimer's disease: 65,965
Influenza/Pneumonia: 59,664
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 42,480
Septicemia: 33,373

By the way, I get my data from the CDC, where do you get yours?
Thanks. Yea I know he needs to show the sources for once! I still don't understand why anyone would think the medical industry would propogate lung cancer...
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these statistics are bogus. lung cancer is NOT the leading cause of death in america - its diabetes, and drunk driving believe it or not. its why theres national epidemic to combat obesity by the u.s. health dept. Not only that, I have reports by other conservative doctors who even question that cigarettes are responsible for lung cancer. again there is too much propoganda put out there by the medical industry.

the oldest man in the world, lives in japan, drank, and smoked and lived to be well over a 100. that's why i say all smokers should drink green tea, or use the extract tablets. switch a alternative diet, which includes neem tablets (neem is natures drugstore).
They're not bogus. The statistics are actually specifically talking about different types of cancers NOT the leading causes of death in the U.S. What reports are you talking about? sources please. See you say things but you never cite a source to back up what you say. What what would the medical industry gain from propogating this? Also I don't think lung cancer actually gets THAT much attention.Don't really see commercials for patches or any other product to quit anymore...on the other hand you still have a GIGANTIC corporation that produces and distributes cigarettes...Phillip Morris. They also fund the programs to quit
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wow...I figured it would be propaganda if they said that it actually WAS 10% of smoker's that get lung cancer...that is a high percentage man...lung cancer is one of the deadliest cancers
It's actually 10% of non smokers who get lung cancer.
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