[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by sally

i read this other diet survey, and it said the sky is blue

Hmm what does blue sky taste like?

[Pushpa]

Interesting article. I actually LOVE asparagus while my husband thinks it's vastly overrated.

I totally lost my appetite for meat and especially chicken, during this pregnancy. Funny because I used to love chicken. I HAVE been eating vast amounts of yogurt lately though.

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

Because you were there during the design process right? Of course all the cancer people get from their meat diets, thats a load of crap of course!!! Ibn and his self righteous crap

Self righteous crap?

God said and told me in His Book to eat meat.

Why the hell would He tell me to eat something, which He hadn't "designed" my body to process?

Why the hell do you allow such retarded brain farts to actually escape from your mouth?

If you compare the dental structure and the digestive system of a cow - which clearly isn't designed to process meat - and you compare the dental structure and digestive tract of a human being, which does process meat, you'll find major differences.

[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Self righteous crap?

God said and told me in His Book to eat meat.

Why the hell would He tell me to eat something, which He hadn't "designed" my body to process?

Why the hell do you allow such retarded brain farts to actually escape from your mouth?

If you compare the dental structure and the digestive system of a cow - which clearly isn't designed to process meat - and you compare the dental structure and digestive tract of a human being, which does process meat, you'll find major differences.

The problem only arises if you eat too much meat donchaknow

Here's a riddle: What happens when an omnivore tries to become a carnivore?

[sixpakistan]

Did they really need a survey to establish this? Seems kind of obvious.

Men are inclined by instinct to consume more meat, as animal protein raises testosterone and is invaluable when it comes to building muscle (which is also why guys tend to like peanuts, which the author of the article thought was "unusual").

However, the male nature and the nafs go hand in hand together. Maulana Rumi (RA) addresses this topic extensively in his Mathnawi, e.g.

(Book V, The Blind Imitator)

Alas for him whose reason is female, while his wicked fleshly soul is male and ready (to gratify its lust)!
Of necessity, his reason is vanquished ; his movement is towards naught but perdition.
Oh, blest is that one whose reason is male, while his wicked fleshly soul is female and helpless ;
Whose particular (individual) reason is male and dominant, (so that) his intellect deprives the female fleshly soul (of power to do mischief).


Eating meat strengthens one's nafs. The Prophet (SAW) ate meat only when it was offered to him. Hazrat Umar (RA) established a law during his caliphate that one could not eat meat two days in a row.

This is why great scholars & awliya such as Sh. Abdul Qadir Jilani (RA), Imam Ghazali (RA), and Maulana Rumi (RA) counseled seekers to eat very little meat, and to eat little in general, so as to "starve the nafs."

.. Having dispensed all of this excellent advice, it must be pointed out that I have a strong nafs, and eat tons of meat and food in general.

[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

Did they really need a survey to establish this? Seems kind of obvious.

Men are inclined by instinct to consume more meat, as animal protein raises testosterone and is invaluable when it comes to building muscle (which is also why guys tend to like peanuts, which the author of the article thought was "unusual").

However, the male nature and the nafs go hand in hand together. Maulana Rumi (RA) addresses this topic extensively in his Mathnawi, e.g.

(Book V, The Blind Imitator)

Alas for him whose reason is female, while his wicked fleshly soul is male and ready (to gratify its lust)!
Of necessity, his reason is vanquished ; his movement is towards naught but perdition.
Oh, blest is that one whose reason is male, while his wicked fleshly soul is female and helpless ;
Whose particular (individual) reason is male and dominant, (so that) his intellect deprives the female fleshly soul (of power to do mischief).


Eating meat strengthens one's nafs. The Prophet (SAW) ate meat only when it was offered to him. Hazrat Umar (RA) established a law during his caliphate that one could not eat meat two days in a row.

This is why great scholars such as Sh. Abdul Qadir Jilani (RA), Imam Ghazali (RA), and Maulana Rumi (RA) counseled seekers to eat very little meat, and to eat little in general, so as to "starve the nafs."

.. Having dispensed all of this excellent advice, it must be pointed out that I have a strong nafs and eat tons of meat and food in general.

Since when do you say RA after Rumi's name? No offense, but what possible basis could they have for making such bold statements? Strengthens the nafs?

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

Since when do you say RA after Rumi's name?

It means "rahimullah" - may Allah's mercy be upon them. It's common to use the term as a sign of respect towards great Muslims like leaders, teachers, scholars. Not to be confused with "radiallah anhu" - may Allah be pleased with them - which is used only after the name of the Prophet's Companions. Many people use the abbreviation (rh) instead of (ra) so as not to cause confusion, but some people still use the same abbreviation (ra).

By the way, Trent, are you vegetarian? I thought about being vegetarian for a while for health reasons, but I wouldn't know what to eat. I always feel hungry if I just eat veggies.

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

Since when do you say RA after Rumi's name? No offense, but what possible basis could they have for making such bold statements? Strengthens the nafs?

Originally Posted by Jamroll

It means "rahimullah" - may Allah's mercy be upon them. It's common to use the term as a sign of respect towards great Muslims like leaders, teachers, scholars. Not to be confused with "radiallah anhu" - may Allah be pleased with them - which is used only after the name of the Prophet's Companions. Many people use the abbreviation (rh) instead of (ra) so as not to cause confusion, but some people still use the same abbreviation (ra).

By the way, Trent, are you vegetarian? I thought about being vegetarian for a while for health reasons, but I wouldn't know what to eat. I always feel hungry if I just eat veggies.

Yeah, it can stand for RahimuAllah or Rehmatullahi Alay, though I don't know that there's an issue with appending RadhiAllahu Anh to the names of the awliya.

As far as meat strengthening the nafs, see above re: "male nature" .. also check out Sh. Abdul Qadir Jilani (RA)'s Endowment of Divine Grace & Spread of Mercy or Ibn Arabi's "Journey to the Lord of Power" (though that's a bit.. out there)

[heba]

im on a lots of protein diet
i eat chicken and protein shakes all day

[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by heba

im on a lots of protein diet
i eat chicken and protein shakes all day

What exercises do you do to balance it all out?

[heba]

Originally Posted by wheelworks

What exercises do you do to balance it all out?

weights and intense cardio. at least 5times a week depending on work/school schedule

[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by heba

weights and intense cardio. at least 5times a week depending on work/school schedule

Weights make you bulky and suddenly you find your clothes don't fit anymore

[heba]

Originally Posted by wheelworks

Weights make you bulky and suddenly you find your clothes don't fit anymore

whatever. im aiming for healthy

[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by heba

whatever. im aiming for healthy

How about healthy + mean pink killer machine?