[farah]

i saw the lunar eclipse. subhanAllah.

and living in the middle of nowhere has its benefits -- minimal light pollution = incredibly starry skies. subhanAllah, you guys have no idea

[PhDGirl]

I've been using Oil of Olay Regenerist serum and so far I really like it. It works well as a primer under makeup and has antioxidants. You can get a big thing of it at Costco.

[bluey]

I feel that nothing is working out. So much stress. Subhanallah.

I hope things fall into place Insha'Allah.

[DramaRani]

Thanks for the duaas girls! My dad had his CT scan today. We won't have the results for a couple of days. Please continue to make duaa. My dad is actually having surgery (for something else) on Tuesday, iA. JazakAllah .

[ABCDGIRL]

Im sooo confused. From sunnipath:

Menstruation: Proofs for the Impermissibility of Women Touching the Quran or Entering the Mas

Answered by Shaykh Abdurrahman ibn Yusuf Mangera


I was once told by a Maulana that whilst women are menstruating, it is not permissible for them to either 1) touch/recite Qur'an, not even one verse or 2) enter a masjid.

However, in recent times many people I meet are telling me differently, including people of knowledge. For example, a sheikh has told me that it is ok for the women to enter the masjid. I am pretty sure that the Hanafi school of thought holds that women are not allowed to enter the masjid, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the daleel for this so that I may be able to give a better explanation than,"Well, a Maulana told me that this was not permissible." Today, everyone wants proof.




Assalamu alaykum

In the name of Allah, the Inspirer of truth.

It is an agreed upon issue that a menstruating women or a person in the seminally defiled state is prohibited from entering the masjid. Many hadiths state this. To quote a few:

1. 'A'isha ra relates that the Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wasallam said: "I do not make lawful the masjid for menstruating women or for one who is in a seminally defiled state [junub]. (Sunan Abu Dawud)

2. Umm Salama ra related that the Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wasallam entered the courtyard of the masjid and announced aloud, "The masjid is not permitted for the seminally defiled and for the menstruating women." (Tabarani)

3. 'A'isha ra relates that the Prophet Sallallahu alayi wasallam called out from the masjid, "O 'A'isha, hand me the cloth." She told him that she was menstruating, so he said the menstruation is not in her hands [i.e. that she could hand him the cloth. Note: the door of her chamber opened up into the masjid]. (Sahih Muslim)

Also in regards to the prohibition of reciting a portion of the Qur'an for them, there are the following hadiths.

1. 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar relates that Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wasallam said, "A menstruating women or a seminally defiled person should not recite any part of the Qur'an. (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, Sunan al-Bayhaqi)

There are also other hadiths transmitted by Imam Daraqutni, Tirmidhi, Nasa'i, Ibn Maja, Abu Dawud, Ibn Hibban, Hakim and others in this regard (See Nasb al-Raya].

Another hadith found in the Muwatta of Imam Malik states that "Only a person in the state of purity should touch the Qur'an." This hadith has been transmitted by many other hadith scholars as well.

'Allama Zayla'i has discussed the hadiths pertaining to these questions thoroughly in his Nasb al-Raya. 1:194—199.

Hence, it is established that women in their periods are prohibited from entering the masjid area. The same pertains to those who are in a seminally defiled state and are in need of a ritual bath [ghusl]. However, it would be permissible for such people to enter a side hall or room in an Islamic Center that is not considered the actual masjid or sanctified prayer area, for instance to attend a dars or lecture.

And Allah knows best.

Wassalam
Abdur-Rahman ibn Yusuf

v.s.

This is taken from the book on Dr. Bilal Phillips "Islamic Ruling on Menstruation and Post Natal Bleeding" page 12:

Touching and Reciting the Qur’an. Menstruating women are permitted to read and touch the Qur’an.

*Footnote to the above statement: Although many scholars have prohibited menstruating women and people in the state of sexual defilement (junub) from reciting the Qur’an or touching it, Imaam al-Bukhaaree took the position that there was no authentic evidence to support such position and that it was in fact permitted. In support of his view he mentioned the positions of some of the early scholars who also permitted reciting and touching the Qur'an in order to show that the prohibition of menstruating women from reciting the Qur'an was not unanimous among scholars of the past. (Fat-h-al-Baaree, vol. 1 p. 305)

Ibn Taymeeyah said, "The prohibition of women from reading the Qur'an has no basis in either the Qur'an or the Sunnah. The statement attributed to the Prophet "The menstruating woman or person sexually defiled (junub) should not read anything of the Qur'an" is NOT Authentic according to the unanimous opinion of the hadeeth scholars. Undoubtedly women used to menstruate during the Prophet's era and if recitation of the Qur'an was prohibited as formal prayer was prohibited, the Prophet would have explained it to his followers and his wives, and it would have been transmitted to us. Consequently, since no prohibition has been transmitted from the Prophet, it is not permissible to declare it haraam (forbidden) while knowing that he did not prohibit it. And if he did not prohibit it in spite of the many cases of menstruation during his time, it is obvious that it is not haraam (al-Majmoo' vol. 26 p. 191)

Ibraaheem an-Nakha'ee (scholar among the students of the companions) said: "There is no harm in menstruating women reciting a Qur'ânic verse. (It was also the opinion of Imam Maalik) (Vol. 1 p. 182 chap.. 9 of Sahih Al-Bukhari) Imaam Al-Bukhari mentioned this incidence in order to prove that since the Prophet sent verses of the Qur'an to the pagans who were in a state of defilement, a menstruating woman should be able to read the Qur'an.

Fatawah or Islamic Rulings about some Important Issues by Sheikh Nasir-ud-Din-Al Albaani

Q. - Is it prohibited to recite the Qur'an without wudoo?

A. - It is preferable to recite it upon purification. The hadeeth of the Messenger's making tayammum to reply to "as-Salaamu' alaikum" It is not forbidden to recite it without wudoo. As for the woman in her state of nifas or in after-birth confinement, then nothing prevents her from reciting the Qur'an. The hadeeth that At-Tirmidhee reported from Ibn 'Umar (r) that the Messenger said: "The woman ill with her period and the junub man may not recite the Qur'an" that is a 'munkar' hadeeth, as the Imaam of Sunnah Ahmad Ibn Hanbal says it is not authentic. Rather we have the hadeeth of Ayesha (r) that the Messenger said to her when she made Hajj and she had her period: "Do everything the pilgrim does except prayer and tawaaf." Does not the pilgrim recite the Qur'an?"

So, this hadeeth is a clear proof of the permissibility of a woman's reciting/reading the Qur'an whilst in her period. Therefore it is not permissible to prevent the woman in her periods from reciting the Qur'an claiming that she is not pure! If Allah ta'ala had prevented her from reciting as He prevented her from praying, then we would follow that prevention and that would be the end of the matter. But He revealed to His Messenger a distinction between prayer and its constituent parts: since some people say that reciting the Qur'an is one of the pillars of the Prayer, so why do we not make purification a pre condition for it as it is for the prayer? So we say: Not only is reciting the Qur'an a part of the prayer, but also, prayer is begun by our saying "Allahu Akbar". So, we should also say that it is a requirement for saying 'takbeer' that we have wudoo! And the same goes for 'tasbeeh', 'tahmeed' etc. We find that some of the companions preferred to have wudoo to touch the Qur'an so that shows what is preferable, but to make it obligatory and to say that it is forbidden for a woman in her state of nifas to touch the Qur'an then that has no proof at all.

[Ilikemyscarf]

I personally don't even touch the Quran.

[ABCDGIRL]

What about the rest of yall?

[Ilikemyscarf]

Originally Posted by ABCDGIRL

What about the rest of you?

What other part of my body would I touch the Quran with if not my hands?

[ABCDGIRL]

Originally Posted by Ilikemyscarf

What other part of my body would I touch the Quran with if not my hands?

ummm i meant the rest of fph (not aryan)

[bluey]

Originally Posted by ABCDGIRL

What about the rest of yall?

Personally, I don't touch the actual mushaf. But I don't see anything wrong with reading or reciting, or going through the Qur'an which has the translation in it.

Wa Allahu a3lam, but thats what I do and what I know.

This issue has been long debated and I think it depends on which opinion you follow? I suppose the thing is to stay on the safe side?

[Ilikemyscarf]

Hey, what about touching like leaflets with the actual arabic script of verses on them? I touch those.

[muslimahpower]

Originally Posted by Ilikemyscarf

Hey, what about touching like leaflets with the actual arabic script of verses on them? I touch those.

If it's arabic verses from Quran, i don't think ur supposed to touch the Arabic part. Hold the leaflet from the side or a place w/ no arabic text.

We learned about this in Quran class. i need to go through my notes iA and then i can post what i have written down

[Ilikemyscarf]

Originally Posted by muslimahpower

If it's arabic verses from Quran, i don't think ur supposed to touch the Arabic part. Hold the leaflet from the side or a place w/ no arabic text.

We learned about this in Quran class. i need to go through my notes iA and then i can post what i have written down

Hurry and share. Shawing is cawing.

[Serendipity]

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Originally Posted by DramaRani

Thanks for the duaas girls! My dad had his CT scan today. We won't have the results for a couple of days. Please continue to make duaa. My dad is actually having surgery (for something else) on Tuesday, iA. JazakAllah .

will do inshallah

Originally Posted by zakk

The best thing to do in these situations is to not let other people's stupidity affect your own psyche. You will always find stupid people, sometimes you will have to live with stupid people, but they will only make you crazy if you let them. Trust me.

ughhhh ! i swear i've had all i can take and they better be aware not to mess with a pregnant woman there's no telling what i might do

Originally Posted by bluey

I feel that nothing is working out. So much stress. Subhanallah.

I hope things fall into place Insha'Allah.

ameen





i have no room left for my lungs to breathe one more month to go then i will be free inshallah.... im always out of breath which gets tiring after a while . i shouldn't even be expected to make social visits dammit i wish ppl would have a little mercy and excuse me from them at this time but , noooooooo...