[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

the moron would like to interject here. it makes sense because other people have asked? "many" is pretty gosh darned vague. i heard a guy ask my imam if eating his friend was permissible (bonafide question) and my imam nearly slapped him upside the head. did that question make sense? absolutely not because it should go without saying that cannibalism is haraam- if you have to ask, you have other issues.

note: when me *and* sixpak are telling you that your question is odd, it probably is. don't get all defensive about it and start calling people names. besides, you looked it up and it's totally halaal. the end.

hahahahaha... "when me and sixpak are telling you" - and who exactly are you two? who the hell do you think you are? the fountain of endless knowledge we all should adhere to? how self-obsessed.

and yeh, i did look it up and it is totally halal, i said that previously

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

Those things you mentioned, the majority don't question. If you asked 100 Muslims if praying 5 times was needed, most if not all would say yes.

But if you ask about laser-eye surgery or things that aren't considered as major, out of the 100 people, not many would be sure either way.

So stop using silly examples please.

If you approached 100 Muslims who weren't idiots with the topic of corrective surgery to restore eyesight, 0 of them would go "wait, isn't that haram?!" .. and then call people morons for suggesting they go ask a scholar, to boot.

[TdotGirl]

let's not get surgery happy now...

first: we dont have the long term impacts of it just yet since it's relatively new.
second: one of my profs mentioned that research shows loss of night vision. So lets give it a couple ofyears folks before we hop on the bandwagon.

If contacts give you headaches, you need to get ur vision checked again and find glasses/contacts that suit you.

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

If you approached 100 Muslims who weren't idiots with the topic of corrective surgery to restore eyesight, 0 of them would go "wait, isn't that haram?!" .. and then call people morons for suggesting they go ask a scholar, to boot.

Seriously dude, what planet are you on? Are you THAT arrogant that you think those 100 Muslims would share the exact same opinion as you?

Not any would doubt that it might not be allowed?

How arrogant can one be.

[MuslimahDaTurkish]

omg, annie u r scearin me our fates are crossed

thats what happens in my house exactly, i dont like wearing glasses.. and i dont wear!
i want the surgery, but my dad replies me with this too:

Originally Posted by annie_359

"why is it that opticians who wear glasses never get their eyes lasered?

The laser technology is new,still risky..and its clear results,complications,irritations can be seen just in the coming years.. so we still have to wait

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by MuslimahDaTurkish

omg, annie u r scearin me our fates are crossed

thats what happens in my house exactly, i dont like wearing glasses.. and i dont wear!
i want the surgery, but my dad replies me with this too:




The laser technology is new,still risky..and its clear results,complications,irritations can be seen just in the coming years.. so we still have to wait

Opticians don't want to mention eye surgery or else they would get no business!

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

Seriously dude, what planet are you on? Are you THAT arrogant that you think those 100 Muslims would share the exact same opinion as you?

Not any would doubt that it might not be allowed?

How arrogant can one be.

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

If you approached 100 Muslims who weren't idiots with the topic of corrective surgery to restore eyesight, 0 of them would go "wait, isn't that haram?!" .. and then call people morons for suggesting they go ask a scholar, to boot.

see bolded text

if you're going to

a) ask a stupid question
b) follow it up by calling morons when given a patient and reasonable suggestion

then i don't see why you expect to be treated like anything but a simpleton

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

see bolded text

if you're going to

a) ask a stupid question
b) follow it up by calling morons when given a patient and reasonable suggestion

then i don't see why you expect to be treated like anything but a simpleton

Ahhhh... so everyone who doesn't have the same opinion as you is an idiot? I seeeeee.

i.e. Muslims who weren't idiots would have the same opinion as you.

How arrogant are you? You're not even worth arguing with. Go worship yourself.

[zzze]

asslamu alaykum

lol omg angry man. take a break! take a kit kat.

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by zzze

asslamu alaykum

lol omg angry man. take a break! take a kit kat.

Some people who say stupid things just make you a little you know!

Ah well, not worth the time. *sighs*

[PhDGirl]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

Yeh but you're not born with that, you are born with your eyesight.

But anyway, it's ok to have it

So, if a baby is born with a cleft lip palette, do you think that the parents shouldn't have it fixed because the baby was born that way? Or what about other congenital deformities? I'm curious why you think someone would question whether or not a medical procedure of this nature was halal or not.

Anyway, this surgery isn't as new as some people here are indicating. It's been done for decades, so there's some long-term data out there if people are interested. I haven't had it done, but am considering it.

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by PhDGirl

So, if a baby is born with a cleft lip palette, do you think that the parents shouldn't have it fixed because the baby was born that way? Or what about other congenital deformities? I'm curious why you think someone would question whether or not a medical procedure of this nature was halal or not.

I love how people on this place just focus in on one thing then ATTACK.

Did you miss the part where I said it's ok?

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

Ahhhh... so everyone who doesn't have the same opinion as you is an idiot? I seeeeee.

i.e. Muslims who weren't idiots would have the same opinion as you.

How arrogant are you? You're not even worth arguing with. Go worship yourself.

No.

Muslims who weren't idiots would have the capability to exercise logic in order to arrive at the same objectively correct point of view that any scholar would provide. Or failing that, they would take the recommendation to go ask a scholar seriously, and without calling anyone morons. The scholar would then provide them the correct point of view.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by TdotGirl

let's not get surgery happy now...

first: we dont have the long term impacts of it just yet since it's relatively new.
second: one of my profs mentioned that research shows loss of night vision. So lets give it a couple ofyears folks before we hop on the bandwagon.

If contacts give you headaches, you need to get ur vision checked again and find glasses/contacts that suit you.

Well, I figured I'd rather get it done now, because I can picture myself having waited to see the long term impact, and then looking back in my old age wondering how things would have been different if I didn't need glasses in the most active years of my life.

According to those in the field, the risks are minimal, and most of the 'horror stories' were from years ago involving people not taking their antibiotic drops after the procedure.

If anyone is thinking about it, just make sure you read all the literature and make a well informed choice.

[PhDGirl]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

I love how people on this place just focus in on one thing then ATTACK.

Did you miss the part where I said it's ok?

Well, thank goodness you have declared it to be okay! My point is that your logic in even questioning it was flawed.