[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by MoonStar

if you have really poor vision can it really correct it to 20/20 or would you still need to wear glasses?

I knew a guy a while back who worked with an opthalmologist.. he said correcting anything under -10 to 20/20 was an "every day" procedure. And that was 7 years ago.,

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

haraam? seriously? uh, no. it's a medical procedure to fix bad eyesight, not etch "I heart mom" on your arm.

It's permanently altering the body when there isn't a need - especially when you can overcome the medical condition by wearing glasses or contacts - so not like it's essential.

Hmm!

[hijabihoodlum]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

It's permanently altering the body when there isn't a need - especially when you can overcome the medical condition by wearing glasses or contacts - so not like it's essential.

Hmm!

well if you're looking for a haraam or halaal stamp, islamica's not the place to do it. i think there are fatwa websites out there if you really want to solve your burning question.

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

It's permanently altering the body when there isn't a need - especially when you can overcome the medical condition by wearing glasses or contacts - so not like it's essential.

Hmm!

That's like saying removing a benign tumor is permanently altering the body without any need. Except poor eyesight isn't really a benign condition.

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

well if you're looking for a haraam or halaal stamp, islamica's not the place to do it. i think there are fatwa websites out there if you really want to solve your burning question.

What's your problem?

I just asked a question, it wasn't a 'burning question'.

And Islamica isn't the place? Hello, this is where Muslims unite to discuss things, I asked 'any thoughts' - I didn't ask please tell me the correct answer with evidence to back-up your statement. Even if I did ask that, what's wrong with asking my fellow Muslims for advice? On top of that, I didn't say it WAS haraam, I just simply posted a thought/argument as to why it COULD BE CONSIDERED haraam, thats all.

For God's sake, what a moron you are, honestly.

Now for the rest of us, I've found this on Islam QA:

Doing laser surgery to correct weak vision is permissible. And there is nothing wrong with doing it if it is done by an expert and it is thought that the surgery will most likely be successful and will not result in harm or complications that will make the situation worse than before, because Islam forbids doing harm to oneself or to others, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm.” Sharee’ah does not prevent the Muslim from doing things that will benefit him and enhance his physical faculties using permissible means. Laser surgery is not changing the creation of Allaah. We ask Allaah to keep us, our religious commitment, our health, our children and our wealth safe and sound.

And Allaah knows best.

...

So it's all good apparently

[hijabihoodlum]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

For God's sake, what a moron you are, honestly.



So it's all good apparently

at least i'm a moron who doesn't resort to name calling. alhamdulillah.

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

That's like saying removing a benign tumor is permanently altering the body without any need. Except poor eyesight isn't really a benign condition.

Yeh but you're not born with that, you are born with your eyesight.

But anyway, it's ok to have it

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

at least i'm a moron who doesn't resort to name calling. alhamdulillah.

"At least I'm a moron..." Well if you say you are, then I've not namecalled have I.

[Aryan_]

I think you should go for it.

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

Yeh but you're not born with that, you are born with your eyesight.

No, you aren't. I was born with 20/20 eyesight. Most people who become nearsighted as they get older were.

It makes no sense from any perspective to question the halalness of laser eye surgery.

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

No, you aren't. I was born with 20/20 eyesight. Most people who become nearsighted as they get older were.

It makes no sense from any perspective to question the halalness of laser eye surgery.

It does make sense to question it.

Why? Because many have.

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

It does make sense to question it.

Why? Because many have.

Many have also questioned whether hijab is fardh, whether we need to pray 5 times a day or whether 3 is sufficient, whether interest is permissible, whether it's permissible to kill girls in MSA due to their stupidity, and so on.

[PrayerWarrior]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

Many have also questioned whether hijab is fardh, whether we need to pray 5 times a day or whether 3 is sufficient, whether interest is permissible, whether it's permissible to kill girls in MSA due to their stupidity, and so on.

Those things you mentioned, the majority don't question. If you asked 100 Muslims if praying 5 times was needed, most if not all would say yes.

But if you ask about laser-eye surgery or things that aren't considered as major, out of the 100 people, not many would be sure either way.

So stop using silly examples please.

[Variable]

It's nice to see we can still have immature name-calling even in an eye-surgery thread on Islamica. All is well with the universe...

Originally Posted by MoonStar

if you have really poor vision can it really correct it to 20/20 or would you still need to wear glasses?

Yeh, my friend would bump into walls if he wasn't wearing glasses and now he's got ridiculously good vision in both eyes. The chances for 20/20 reduce after a certain level, but it's still good, and the chances you won't need glasses is like 99%. They give you all that info during the testing phase.

[hijabihoodlum]

Originally Posted by PrayerWarrior

It does make sense to question it.

Why? Because many have.

the moron would like to interject here. it makes sense because other people have asked? "many" is pretty gosh darned vague. i heard a guy ask my imam if eating his friend was permissible (bonafide question) and my imam nearly slapped him upside the head. did that question make sense? absolutely not because it should go without saying that cannibalism is haraam- if you have to ask, you have other issues.

note: when me *and* sixpak are telling you that your question is odd, it probably is. don't get all defensive about it and start calling people names. besides, you looked it up and it's totally halaal. the end.