[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by wheelworks

Good thing I don't live my life based on statistics

Salam

So you're decided? I thought you were looking for advice. In that case, I didnt mean to suggest it wouldnt work out for you, just to warn you that in most cases people without degrees dont do as well as those who have them. Good luck, and inshallah you'll achieve whatever you want to

ws

[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

Salam

So you're decided? I thought you were looking for advice. In that case, I didnt mean to suggest it wouldnt work out for you, just to warn you that in most cases people without degrees dont do as well as those who have them. Good luck, and inshallah you'll achieve whatever you want to

ws

I was just basically asking everyones opinions of people who didn't equate degrees with being wealthy in the future. I already made up my mind a while back.

As for Jaysh's comment on getting a degree being equivalent of tying your camel and then trusting in Allah, My view is that it's not the degree thats the tying part but working hard for your rizq and then trusting in Allah to provide it donchaknow

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by wheelworks

I was just basically asking everyones opinions of people who didn't equate degrees with being wealthy in the future. I already made up my mind a while back.

As for getting a degree being equivalent of tying your camel and then trusting in Allah, My view is that it's not the degree thats the tying part but working hard for your rizq and then trusting in Allah to provide it.

good luck doing what you're gonna do. Inshallah you'll become successful

ws

[wheelworks]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

good luck doing what you're gonna do. Inshallah you'll become successful

ws

Ameen. Same with you

[Rida]

If your desi and you hope to get shadied to a desi girl, then you might have some problems finding a family who is accepting of a degree-less individual for their daughter.
Only way that they might overlook that is if you're rolling in dough, or you're really well off in the religious fields.

Ameen to the du'a's

Wassalaam

[bravotwozero]

Originally Posted by vegetables

depends on the field. alot of IT people i know never went to/finished college and they are doing really well.

Tradespeople (mechanics, plumbers, tool and die makers etc) would be another example. Because more people are entering white collar jobs, there is a labor shortage in these areas, and people who work in these fields can earn a substantial income. It's not inconceivable for a tool and die maker to earn a six figure annual income if he/she puts in some overtime hours.

[Jamroll]

It depends on what kind of work you want to do.

If you want to go into medicine, law, engineering or the corporate world you need a university degree. You'll hit a ceiling pretty fast if you attempt any of the above without being a graduate.

But there are plenty of jobs out there in which you can make decent money and not have to have a degree to do it.

Some of the wealthiest people I know, never went to university, or dropped out in their first year. It wasn't that they weren't smart - they just didn't feel cut out for academics. What these people lacked in academic motivation they made up for being shrewd business people with good ideas.

[Variable]

My sister's husband does drywall and he's pulling in well over 100,000 a year. He doens't even have to work overtime. In fact I kind of think he works undertime.

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by bravotwozero

Tradespeople (mechanics, plumbers, tool and die makers etc) would be another example. Because more people are entering white collar jobs, there is a labor shortage in these areas, and people who work in these fields can earn a substantial income. It's not inconceivable for a tool and die maker to earn a six figure annual income if he/she puts in some overtime hours.

In London, tradesman, especially plumbers are in short supply. So much so that City traders (stockbrokers and people who work in investment banks) are quitting their well paid jobs to retrain as plumbers.

A decent plumber in London can earn upwards of £70,000 a year (that's about US$140,000!)

[Jamroll]

Move to London and become a plumber, wheely:

BBC NEWS | Wales | A degree or not a degree?

According to the Federation, parents are encouraging teenagers to train for a job after school, rather than go to university. The report says people are worried about student debts and see a trade as a better option.

Is the work out there? Well, according to the Construction Industry Training Board in Wales the answer is most definitely yes.

We're short of around 1,500 plumbers - and if the newspapers are to be believed, the earning power of the man or indeed woman with a wrench, is considerable. Some can earn £70,000 - topping the salaries of doctors and dentists.

[MossadConspiracy]

wow, its incredible that 60% of welsh parents want their kids to take up a trade instead of something professional.

Do the trade groups in the UK prevent immigrants from entering these jobs? Also, is it possible for somebody to work in one of these fields without being a member of the union?

The incomes are remarkable

[Revert]

I don't have a degree and my financial situation sucks, however thats not down to me not having a degree, its down to poor choices i've made in the past few years.

I tried getting a degree and realised quickly that Academia is not for me. I am seriously considering retraining at a Tradce school or something. In this crappy economy it pays to have a trade people need.

Wheeley i pray Allah guides you in the right way and affords you the chance to make the right choices. INsha'Allah he will do the same for me too.

[bravotwozero]

The biggest advantage with training in a trade is that your job really can't be outsourced. It's not as if someone living in the US can have their drywalling/plumbing done in China.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by bravotwozero

The biggest advantage with training in a trade is that your job really can't be outsourced. It's not as if someone living in the US can have their drywalling/plumbing done in China.

good point I think most people shy away form these jobs because the stigma attached to them, but hell i'm willing to train in somehting if it means a steady higher than avaerage paycheck every month.

[Sabz]

As salaam u alaikum,

Hmm degree-less future I think not! You see im NOT, NOT ALLOWED to do a degree. My mum always says..
"People can take everything from you but they cant take your education"

and seeing asthough Heaven is beneath your mothers feet...well then a one hot plate of degree; comming right up!

wasalaam
Sabz