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Quick. Pop quiz. And no cheating. No Googling. No calling the NAACP.
Are there more Black men in college or jail?
The answer may be different than what you have heard.




THE CANTON REPOSITORY
‘What Black Men Think’ plays tonight at school
Tuesday, September 11, 2007
BY CHARITA M. GOSHAY
REPOSITORY STAFF WRITER

CANTON Janks Morton said an “undeclared civil war” is unraveling the very fabric of the black community.

Tonight at 6, the Washington, D.C.-based filmmaker will host a free viewing and discussion of his new documentary, “What Black Men Think,” at Timken High School at 521 Tuscarawas St. W.

The film, Morton said, addresses some of the problems afflicting the black community, the damaging stereotypes, as well as solutions.

“Just a generation ago, black men and women were together,” he said. “We have the highest divorce rate, the lowest marriage rate, the highest (unmarried) rate and the highest out-of-wedlock birthrate. There’s been an undeclared civil war. … The reason why we’re disconnected is we do not see each other for who we are anymore. We’ve bought into the myths and stereotypes, and have blanketed one another with them.”

Morton said he was moved to make the documentary after watching a C-SPAN debate between writers Michael Eric Dyson and Juan Williams, who appears in the film.

“During their debate, Juan Williams said that 70 percent of black children are born out of wedlock; I didn’t believe him,” Morton said. “I went and did some research. He was dead-on.”

Morton said it resulted in his doing more research, during which he found evidence to debunk the biggest myth of all: That more black men are in prison than in college; a fallacy, he said, that even blacks believe.

Morton said the myth is partly rooted on a Justice Policy Institute study released in 2002

“It was a flawed study,” he said. “They’re two groups that never should have been put together. Incarcerated men includes everyone from a 13-year-old-kid to 80- to 90-year-old-guys, while the age range for college men is 18 to 24.”

Morton said 2005 statistics from the Census Bureau and the Bureau of Justice Statistics draw a different conclusion. In 2005, there were 864,000 black men enrolled in college, versus 801,900 incarcerated 18-to 24 year-olds.

MEDIA FILTER

Morton said how blacks are viewed, and even how blacks see themselves, is shaped by the media.

“One of the challenges we’re facing is what we define as ‘authentically black,’ ” he said. “There’s a constant bombardment of imagery that redefines what ‘normal’ behavior is. If you take our lowest common denominator — call him Flavor Flav if you want — and while you might not do some of the ignorant things he does, some of the less ignorant things he does don’t seem so bad.”

Another problem, Morton said, is the absence of what he calls “internal corrective measures,” namely, fathers.

“Remove the father from the equation, and you began see some of the bizarre behaviors being adapted by the media,” he said.

HARMFUL FACTORS

Morton said other factors such as welfare in the 1960s and the loss of blue-collar jobs have taken their toll on relationships.

“By the time you get to ‘The Color Purple’ and the ‘Waiting to Exhale’ generation, it’s full-on civil war,” Morton said. “If you want to restore the community, you have to restore the family, which means you have to restore the man.”

Morton also contends that division among blacks is a profitable industry, “that as you fight with one another, the ratings go up, and revenues go up. We keep festering over ancillary issues that keep us divided. Someone’s picking up a very big paycheck.”

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i think black women treat black men like crap.
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i think black women treat black men like crap.


I dont think you think at all
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The answer may be different than what you have heard.
of course no one should be surprised by this. the black population in america is around 50 - 60 million, only latino's are slightly more beacuse of high births (meaning big familia's). now 50 million is not a joke, there are many countries in europe that dont even have a total population anywhere near this size. so to say that a vast majority are in prison is wrong. the fact is that here we are some 40+ year's since the march on d.c. and the civil rights movements and black americans today number at least 40% within the middle class. who else does a cable channel like B.E.T. cater to? the black middle class who can easily afford cable tv or sattelite dish. I grew up in a suburb right next to the city of chicago, and its a very mixed town. around my neighborhood you see the emerging black middle class, who came out of the poverty of the west side ghettos of chicago. They are living the american dream. many people prefer to live in my town, because of its proximity to the west side, where many people still have relatives who continue to reside there in the old neighborhoods. and something else that i have been seeing as more recent phenomon. you are seeing economic development in these areas by the black middle class. Many people are even building brand new homes in their old neighbordhoods and are attempting to develop it, because many black people do actually prefer to live in predominantly black neighborhoods. not everyone is like that, but alot of people feel that way.
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The way American culture approaches blacks is very deeply infused with racism

Blacks in the mainstream culture are usually no different. And black culture itself suffers from a huge inferiority complex.

Just one tiny example is that whenever the issue of a black men having sex with men is raised, AIDS becomes a major part of the discussion. However, when Ted Haggard was discovered to have used crystal meth and had sex with gay prostitutes, HIV never even entered the discussion. The same goes for Jim McGreevey, Larry Craig who was involved in some of the riskiest sexual behavior of all- anonymous gay sex with random strangers. AIDS has never been mentioned in any of those cases

Blacks are just perceived as being dirtier, taking more risks, and so on.
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Many people are even building brand new homes in their old neighbordhoods and are attempting to develop it, because many black people do actually prefer to live in predominantly black neighborhoods. not everyone is like that, but alot of people feel that way.
Dude...

those condo's that they're building, are not meant for the people in that area...

You are talking about the 'West Side'

and not just streets west of state right?
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Dude...

those condo's that they're building, are not meant for the people in that area...

You are talking about the 'West Side'

and not just streets west of state right?
how does kedzie and divsion sound? is that west side enough for you?
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The way American culture approaches blacks is very deeply infused with racism

Blacks in the mainstream culture are usually no different. And black culture itself suffers from a huge inferiority complex.

Just one tiny example is that whenever the issue of a black men having sex with men is raised, AIDS becomes a major part of the discussion. However, when Ted Haggard was discovered to have used crystal meth and had sex with gay prostitutes, HIV never even entered the discussion. The same goes for Jim McGreevey, Larry Craig who was involved in some of the riskiest sexual behavior of all- anonymous gay sex with random strangers. AIDS has never been mentioned in any of those cases

Blacks are just perceived as being dirtier, taking more risks, and so on.
kinda like the way arab girls have a inferiority complex when they die thier hair blonde in an effort to pass for white?
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Its mostly old ladies who do that to try to look young again, but thats not what i was talking about. I meant how black pop culture frowns upon people who become educated and have professional careers for "talking white", "acting white", etc. Disruptive and violent behavior is glorified, and basically a big part of the black identity is defined by its relation to white culture and society. Theres an assumption that being educated and a professional is "white" and being an unemployed welfare recipient in an inner city project is "black" and people who cross those lines are committing a betrayal

Arabs and muslims have a different sort of inferiority complex, which comes from international issues more than cultural ones
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how does kedzie and divsion sound? is that west side enough for you?
Kedzie?

nah...

maybe Kimball/homan and division...
or Pulaski...

Kedzie and division...Isn't that by Ukrainian village?
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kinda like the way arab girls have a inferiority complex when they die thier hair blonde in an effort to pass for white?
Arabs are white..just as greeks are considered white.
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Arabs are white..just as greeks are considered white.
According to US census documentation anyway. White, Caucasian, Middle Eastern, it's all the same box.
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Arabs are white..just as greeks are considered white.
Some arabs are white.
You're forgetting that the arab world is a gigantic Grey area as far as race is concerned...
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Some arabs are white.
You're forgetting that the arab world is a gigantic Grey area as far as race is concerned...
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